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Re: LXD is now under Canonical

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The point of them owning LXD is to give them total control of the underlying technology they are using for Snaps. Snaps is the play… has nothing to do with kube/docker. It’s actually more of a synonym of ostree and flatpaks.

Snap is not built on top of lxd.

Could it be?

Re: LXD is now under Canonical

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Stéphane Graber's work is fantastic and LXD had a lot of potential. But Canonical managed to drive me away from it with that abomination called Snap and its auto updates that could bring down a cluster without warning.

Thankfully, the latest release of Debian provides LXD via .deb packages.

Re: LXD is now under Canonical

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Stéphane Graber's work is fantastic and LXD had a lot of potential. But Canonical managed to drive me away from it with that abomination called Snap and its auto updates that could bring down a cluster without warning.

Yeah, snaps can go to hell. In addition to what you already mentioned, they are extremely complicated to debug when things go wrong.

Re: LXD is now under Canonical

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Stéphane Graber's work is fantastic and LXD had a lot of potential. But Canonical managed to drive me away from it with that abomination called Snap and its auto updates that could bring down a cluster without warning.

Moved completely off ubuntu after snaps were introduced. Sticking with gentoo now because it’s one of a few distros that doesn’t try to control what software you have to use.

Re: LXD is now under Canonical

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Very soon Microsoft will acquire Canonical for at least $40 billion. The reasons:

* Ubuntu powers the overwhelming majority of Azure workloads (both customer and internal)

* Nearly all Linux applications and tooling target Ubuntu first (or at the very least)

* Github, VSCode. The missing piece is the actual runtime operating system. Ubuntu.

* Canonical employs nearly all the remaining core enterprise open-source developers after IBM acquired Red Hat

Start the countdown to Microsoft Ubuntu.

Re: LXD is now under Canonical

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Woah I notice that the signatures on that include Stéphane Graber. It's rather hard to imagine LXD continuing as a going concern without him. Does this mean he regrets the decision, but is going to keep working on LXD, or... does this mean LXD is fucked? -- concerned LXD user

> does this mean LXD is fucked It is either way. Docker / kubernetes is eating it up. There aren't as many LXD users as they'd hope. Oh and he does work for Canonical.

> Docker / kubernetes is eating it up

Is LXD's purpose the same as Docker/Kubernetes? I use both LXD and Docker and to me they are tools that use the same technology (containerzation) but for different purposes. Docker is for stateless containers, used to containerize services. LXD is for stateful containers, used to containerize operating systems. LXD can also run VMs while Docker can't.

I think about LXD as a sort of Proxmox alternative (because you can manage LXC containers and VMs with it) instead of a Docker/Kubernetes alternative. In fact, I actually have migrated my systems from Proxmox to Ubuntu Server with Docker, for stateless applications, and LXD, for when I need to containerize an entire OS or VMs for my friends.

Re: LXD is now under Canonical

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Very soon Microsoft will acquire Canonical for at least $40 billion. The reasons: * Ubuntu powers the overwhelming majority of Azure workloads (both customer and internal) * Nearly all Linux applications and tooling target Ubuntu first (or at the very least) * Github, VSCode. The missing piece is the actual runtime operating system. Ubuntu. * Canonical employs nearly all the remaining core enterprise open-source deve…

Unless Microsoft has an Activision-sized amount of cash burning a hole in its pocket, that feels unlikely. Seems far easier/likelier to make a Microsoft branded Debian than to go all-in-on Ubuntu. Maybe I could take the aqui-hire angle, but how many Ubuntu devs would want to stay with Microsoft?

Re: LXD is now under Canonical

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Stéphane Graber's work is fantastic and LXD had a lot of potential. But Canonical managed to drive me away from it with that abomination called Snap and its auto updates that could bring down a cluster without warning.

Moved completely off ubuntu after snaps were introduced. Sticking with gentoo now because it’s one of a few distros that doesn’t try to control what software you have to use.

Me too. Turns out alpine is better for server vms for my use case and cachyos is better for desktop for my use case as wrll (at least possibly until i figure out nixos)
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