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Six-Legged Giant Finds Secret Hideaway, Hides For 80 Years

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Re: Six-Legged Giant Finds Secret Hideaway, Hides For 80 Years

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That's an amazing story. This insect was pretty lucky to live on the coolest rock climbing crag I have ever seen...which requires a special permit to climb [1]. I think I would have quite happily joined that "research" team. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balls_Pyramid

I'd rather have a house on a craggy island: http://www.flickr.com/photos/icesebra/3675752635/in/set-7215... [Apparently the house belongs to Bjork].

god that would suck to go to the grocery from. How does she even get power?

Re: Six-Legged Giant Finds Secret Hideaway, Hides For 80 Years

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post #160

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Firstly, I apologise for downvoting you. Unnecessary, and somewhat spiteful. I'm guessing in advance that we're going to have to agree to disagree, or more likely, this conversation will peter out unfinished, but I'll have a go at explaining my position. The Earth is a finite enclosed ecosystem to all intents and purposes. Humans have existed for a small fraction of time compared to the entire life of the planet. In…

"For scientific reasons, isolated species such as these should be preserved. To study, inform and provide living examples of the diversity of life that existed before the ubiquity of modern human civilisation eradicated so much." These are two contradictory statements in one statement. Either we preserve, in which case there is no 'before' in your sentence (because there is no eradication), or we don't, and we docume…

> What is the underlying reason to preserve a random state of nature? Change is natural, things come and go, so do species - nothing out of the ordinary about it.

I can't speak for the OP, obviously, but I'm in favor of preserving particular states of nature for essentially aesthetic reasons: I want to keep a copy around for when evolution moves on and species change niches or go extinct. I like keeping track of the information, too.

I won't pretend that's "natural" though. If it's anything it's pretty explicitly anti-natural. I wouldn't necessarily recommend reintroducing them into their original environment either, unless said reintroduction wasn't disruptive (to either the environment or the locals).

Some species also need to be kept around for reasons of ecosystem integrity (system being the operative word there), but these particular insects don't appear to fall under that heading.

Re: Six-Legged Giant Finds Secret Hideaway, Hides For 80 Years

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post #165

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"These are two contradictory statements in one statement." Well I'm glad I got the opportunity to chat with you sir, and your smarts shut me down. I'll shut up now. Let me know when I can talk, and in the meantime

Not sure if you pressed 'reply' too soon? I'm quite confused, first you say you want to discuss, but then you get all snarky and dismissive on me without going into the substance of the discussion. If there are any rational reasons to want to preserve as many species as possible, I'd like to be convinced. I was just pointing out that your arguments weren't phrased consistently, and then went on to explain my interpre…

Sorry roel_v... I was IUI (Interneting under the influence).

Re: Six-Legged Giant Finds Secret Hideaway, Hides For 80 Years

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Pics of Ball's Pyramid from Bryden Allen, one of the first people to summit this wicked place: http://www.uq.edu.au/nuq/jack/Bryden.html

Summit is a verb now?

Yup, that happens pretty regularly, some coianges being better than others.

For example, during the Beijing Olympics, various coaches and commentators unfortunately verbified 'medal'. The resulting sentences were not pleasant...

Re: Six-Legged Giant Finds Secret Hideaway, Hides For 80 Years

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At what point do we consider those 347 residents as an invasive species?

It hardly seems fair to consider them an invasive species without considering all humans one as well.

Along with every other species in existence.

Re: Six-Legged Giant Finds Secret Hideaway, Hides For 80 Years

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post #169

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Summit is a verb now?

Disclaimer: English is not my first language. In my experience, I see it's very, very common to turn a noun as a verb, in informal contexts. Do you people still bother to make a distinction?

Yes we do make that distinction.
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