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Bottles – Easily run Windows software on Linux

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Re: Bottles – Easily run Windows software on Linux

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Basically a free clone of CrossOver, which has used “bottles” to refer to separate Wine prefixes for 20 years. (disclaimer: I work for CodeWeavers)

I don’t work for codeweavers and will still say that this is unfairly benefiting from the existing terminology created by codeweavers. They could have literally picked any other name.

> unfairly benefiting from the existing terminology created by codeweavers

Seems like a stretch. I don't see a problem with reusing good terminology. It's not like it's trademarked.

I can see "bottles" becoming the generic term, it makes more sense than "prefixes".

Re: Bottles – Easily run Windows software on Linux

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I only use Windows because of gaming purposes. Is there anything around the internet that can show benchmarks for something like Bottles vs Proton vs Windows? WSL works well but I’d personally want to stay stick to native and not dual boot.

No, the best solution is just to use protondb and see if it works there, and read some comments. Then try it. Performance really doesn't matter for most titles because generally speaking the first problem is "Does it work under Proton or not" and then "Does it work reliably." You can get the Proton build of Wine a number of ways like Lutris, from what I understand, or just install Steam on Linux.

Again, do not read what anyone says as gospel, check the games you have and want to play even if people say they're perfect. Lots of things work but a lot of high-profile stuff still doesn't, so it won't work for everybody. And if a game requires 20 minutes of fucking around to get working reliably, it's very possibly not worth it; but IME people who desperately want to use Linux will excuse any amount of issues except for literally not being able to boot.[1] For example, Dragon Ball FighterZ and Destiny 2 don't work well under Proton (for different reasons) but ultimately, I have to use Windows as a result, no matter what anyone says here. Lots of games do work on my Steam Deck though, so that's nice.

[1] You can find tons of reports on ProtonDB like the following: marked "Playable", but then it says "You must launch the game with a custom environment variable to boot it, then it will crash every 10 minutes, which sucks, but it's playable." Literally the definition of "not playable" by any metric...

Re: Bottles – Easily run Windows software on Linux

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Cool, but after reading "All the gaming platforms you already know, right here" and searching for Xbox Game Pass or Forza Horizon and finding nothing, I gave up.

I have found that most open source projects like this tend to oversell and underdeliver.

Re: Bottles – Easily run Windows software on Linux

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Just use Lutris. It can fetch various flavours of wine and manage your bottles. https://lutris.net/

On one hand, this is also what I use, and it kind of works. On the other hand... Wine and NVidia seem to not like each other... at all. Every game will require tinkering with Wine and a bunch of things that are supposed to wortk with various NVidia drivers and video adapters. And there's non-zero chance that it simply won't work. Or won't work with your display manager / desktop manager / monitor connection etc. For…

My laptop is all AMD (AMD Ryzen 6800HS) and I think people have rose-colored glasses of the AMD situation. I certainly prefer it for many reasons: it's driver stack is open source, it has full DRI2 support, it works with Wayland, etc. That being said, it has plenty of it's own problems and I've run into many of them with Proton/Wine. I would dare say, more than my Nvidia laptop did (though, this was before Steam Deck launched; so I'm certain of it having improved).

Ironically, Intel's embedded GPUs have the least issues overall; but are the least capable pieces of hardware.

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