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Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#991

Post by dcunit3d »

eyelidlessness wrote: post #414
TheBlight wrote: post #409

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly there is something wrong with the site. So I don't doubt there is a bug. But the OP gives no helpful information that could be used to reproduce the issue and fails to describe it in any helpful detail really. They seem content to just effectively say "Twitter is dumb." Which, again, is fine but not all that technical and interesting.

There’s information in the post that very probably points at the underlying cause. The scrollbar jumping is a dead giveaway: Twitter loads more content based on scroll position. If your viewport is sized such that displaying the error message triggers another load event by its corresponding change in scroll position, it will try again indefinitely absent some additional logic to bail out. Edit: this of course depends…

yeh, i tried to mention this, but it got flagged quick. it's unbelievable that my median salary for the past decade is $3,000 after several years of "Startup" followed by "How to Start a Reboot of My Life"

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36561808

it's a 429 error, so the developer who posted this is an idiot. they're not even wrong. the 429 doesn't even touch twitter's infrastructure

https://blog.twitter.com/engineering/en_us/topics/infrastruc...

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#992

Post by dcunit3d »

fwlr wrote: post #645
mananaysiempre wrote: post #323

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, look closely: the animation does not show the console, it shows the network pane. Each line is a (presumably unsuccessful) request to the Twitter backend. If a lot of people have the Twitter web frontend open and running in this state, it could in fact overload the backend.

Sure, I mis-spoke in saying it was console.log spam, that’s not specifically what’s happening. But let’s be real, if you’re getting a 429 response that is at most a cached hash table lookup per request, for a site has probably top 50 in the world in terms of “scaling to handle heavy request loads” for a decade. There’s just no chance this specific thing is actually what’s causing issues for Twitter, it’s obviously a…

THANK YOU! i tried to mention this, but it got flagged quick. it's unbelievable that my median salary for the past decade is $3,000 after several years of "Startup" followed by "How to Start a Reboot of My Life"

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36561808

it's a 429 error, so the developer who posted this is an idiot. they're not even wrong. the 429 doesn't even touch twitter's infrastructure

https://blog.twitter.com/engineering/en_us/topics/infrastruc...

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#993

Post by dcunit3d »

williamsmj wrote: post #747
andreygrehov wrote: post #743

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should a CTO perform UAT?

A CTO is responsible for failures in the technology org. A CTO who describes himself as responsible for "sysops" is specifically responsible for failures in SRE/ops. Leaders are responsible for work they didn't personally do. If they don't want to be responsible for their reports then they can always go back to being a junior IC.

right, i tried to mention this above, but it got flagged quick. it's unbelievable that my median salary for the past decade is $3,000 after several years of "Startup" followed by "How to Start a Reboot of My Life"

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36561808

it's a 429 error, so the developer who posted this is an idiot. they're not even wrong. the 429 doesn't even touch twitter's infrastructure

https://blog.twitter.com/engineering/en_us/topics/infrastruc...

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#994

Post by dcunit3d »

andreygrehov wrote: post #913
rsynnott wrote: post #854

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(A) He claims to be the CTO. (B) Are you familiar with the expression “the buck stops here”?

(A) How is a CTO responsible for deployments? CTO oversees the development evolving the company’s strategic technical direction so that's its beneficial for a business. Twitter is not your typical YC startup. Large companies' CTOs should not care about things like "this could DDOS us". These are the responsibilities of SDEs. (B) No, but I just googled it and I can't see how the term applies here. In my opinion, it do…

on (B) you're correct. I tried to post this above but it got flagged quick.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36561808

it's a 429 error, so the developer who posted this is an idiot. they're not even wrong. the 429 doesn't even touch twitter's infrastructure. the HTTPS TLS terminates at a Google VM, which gets relayed depending on the VIP used to hit it, but the traffic never gets past that Google VM. This is literally /HOW/ companies deal with DDOS.

https://blog.twitter.com/engineering/en_us/topics/infrastruc...

it's unbelievable that my median salary for the past decade is $3,000 after several years of "Startup" followed by "How to Start a Reboot of My Life"

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#995

Post by dcunit3d »

rideontime wrote: post #10

Keep in mind that Twitter engineers are under extreme pressure, knowing that their H1B visas are at stake, to implement Elon’s whims as quickly as possible on systems they’re unfamiliar with. I doubt many of us would perform better in their situation.

I tried to point this out below. It's not even a DDoS, it's fake news.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36561808

it's a 429 error, so the developer who posted this is an idiot. they're not even wrong. the 429 doesn't even touch twitter's infrastructure. the HTTPS TLS terminates at a Google VM, which gets relayed depending on the VIP used to hit it, but the traffic never gets past that Google VM. This is literally /HOW/ companies deal with DDOS.

https://blog.twitter.com/engineering/en_us/topics/infrastruc...

it's unbelievable that my median salary for the past decade is $3,000 after several years of "Startup" followed by "How to Start a Reboot of My Life"

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#996

Post by dcunit3d »

shawnc wrote: post #174

My 14yr old daughter sent me this screenshot the other day with the comment "I think that one sentence sums up twitter pretty well". https://capture.dropbox.com/GqgTAxRimqAXzrdo

Your 14 y/o daughter is fired.

I tried to point this out below. It's not even a DDoS, it's fake news.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36561808

it's a 429 error, so the developer who posted this is an idiot. they're not even wrong. the 429 doesn't even touch twitter's infrastructure. the HTTPS TLS terminates at a Google VM, which gets relayed depending on the VIP used to hit it, but the traffic never gets past that Google VM. This is literally /HOW/ companies deal with DDOS.

https://blog.twitter.com/engineering/en_us/topics/infrastruc...

it's unbelievable that my median salary for the past decade is $3,000 after several years of "Startup" followed by "How to Start a Reboot of My Life"

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#997

Post by dcunit3d »

terminatornet wrote: post #237
lamontcg wrote: post #143

I think we're about at the point where the people who predicted chaos at twitter after Elon basically fired most of the experienced engineers have been proven correct. The duct tape is all coming apart at the seams now. It isn't quite as decisive as a submarine imploding, and ceasing to exist, but it has turned into a brightly burning tirefire.

right? it's a shame hacker news doesn't let you reply to old comments, there's a few threads I'd like to follow up on from people who refused to believe Elon was destroying twitter

I tried to point this out below. It's not even a DDoS, it's fake news.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36561808

it's a 429 error, so the developer who posted this is an idiot. they're not even wrong. the 429 doesn't even touch twitter's infrastructure. the HTTPS TLS terminates at a Google VM, which gets relayed depending on the VIP used to hit it, but the traffic never gets past that Google VM. This is literally /HOW/ companies deal with DDOS.

https://blog.twitter.com/engineering/en_us/topics/infrastruc...

it's unbelievable that my median salary for the past decade is $3,000 after several years of "Startup" followed by "How to Start a Reboot of My Life" ...

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#998

Post by dcunit3d »

Marazan wrote: post #251
terminatornet wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

right? it's a shame hacker news doesn't let you reply to old comments, there's a few threads I'd like to follow up on from people who refused to believe Elon was destroying twitter

I think I had someone do the old sarcastic "remind me of this in one year" under one of my posts predicting technical doom for Twitter. Definitely a good one to revisit.

Yeh, except you're completely wrong. I tried to point this out below. It's not even a DDoS, it's fake news.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36561808

it's a 429 error, so the developer who posted this is an idiot. they're not even wrong. the 429 doesn't even touch twitter's infrastructure. the HTTPS TLS terminates at a Google VM, which gets relayed depending on the VIP used to hit it, but the traffic never gets past that Google VM. This is literally /HOW/ companies deal with DDOS.

https://blog.twitter.com/engineering/en_us/topics/infrastruc...

it's unbelievable that my median salary for the past decade is $3,000 after several years of "Startup" followed by "How to Start a Reboot of My Life"

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#999

Post by dcunit3d »

avl999 wrote: post #225
lamontcg wrote: post #143

I think we're about at the point where the people who predicted chaos at twitter after Elon basically fired most of the experienced engineers have been proven correct. The duct tape is all coming apart at the seams now. It isn't quite as decisive as a submarine imploding, and ceasing to exist, but it has turned into a brightly burning tirefire.

I am not disagreeing with you but self-ddos is not entirely uncommon. When I worked at Amazon this would happen a few times a year. Not on the main amazon.com website but on supporting services often initiated by but not limited to kindle devices. Having something like this slip through the cracks of even experienced engineers isn't uncommon.

I tried to point this out below. It's not even a DDoS, it's fake news.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36561808

it's a 429 error, so the developer who posted this is an idiot. they're not even wrong. the 429 doesn't even touch twitter's infrastructure. the HTTPS TLS terminates at a Google VM, which gets relayed depending on the VIP used to hit it, but the traffic never gets past that Google VM. This is literally /HOW/ companies deal with DDOS.

https://blog.twitter.com/engineering/en_us/topics/infrastruc...

it's unbelievable that my median salary for the past decade is $3,000 after several years of "Startup" followed by "How to Start a Reboot of My Life"

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Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#1000

Post by dcunit3d »

lamontcg wrote: post #143

I think we're about at the point where the people who predicted chaos at twitter after Elon basically fired most of the experienced engineers have been proven correct. The duct tape is all coming apart at the seams now. It isn't quite as decisive as a submarine imploding, and ceasing to exist, but it has turned into a brightly burning tirefire.

I tried to point this out below. It's not even a DDoS, it's fake news. it's so "not even wrong"

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36561808

it's a 429 error, so the developer who posted this is an idiot. they're not even wrong. the 429 doesn't even touch twitter's infrastructure. the HTTPS TLS terminates at a Google VM, which gets relayed depending on the VIP used to hit it, but the traffic never gets past that Google VM. This is literally /HOW/ companies deal with DDOS.

https://blog.twitter.com/engineering/en_us/topics/infrastruc...

it's unbelievable that my median salary for the past decade is $3,000 after several years of "Startup" followed by "How to Start a Reboot of My Life"

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