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Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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Post by nzach »

How does someone measure the average global temperature? And what does it means?

The Wikipedia[0] has one interesting source[1] but what they show there isn't an average.

My guess would be that somehow satellites can measure the surface temperature and use that to make an average?

I would be very happy if someone could some point me to some explanations about this process.

[0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surface_temperature

[1] - https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/monthly-report/g...

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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Post by hotpotamus »

_Microft wrote: post #13
replygirl wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the boy who cried wolf is about that

You're mistaken there: "The boy who cried wolf" is about lying about there being a wolf while it isn't, not about speaking the truth but nobody wanting to listen. Edit: check for yourself if you like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf

I didn't think about the inverse parable, but I suppose that's Cassandra (and I've heard the database name was also a playful jab at Oracle, since Cassandra herself was an oracle).

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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Post by saulpw »

_Microft wrote: post #13
replygirl wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the boy who cried wolf is about that

You're mistaken there: "The boy who cried wolf" is about lying about there being a wolf while it isn't, not about speaking the truth but nobody wanting to listen. Edit: check for yourself if you like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf

Cassandra foresaw the future but nobody listened.

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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Post by jlengrand »

ars wrote: post #19
jlengrand wrote: post #3

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It should be news everywhere each and every day until we do enough about it so it isn't any more IMHO

That's a great way to make everyone ignore it. Calling it a "crisis" does the same thing, the first time you hear crisis you get worried, then you realize it's a very very slow moving thing and you start ignoring them. Being alarmist helps no one. Just be factual about it, it's not the news media's job to rile people up or get them to take some kind of action.

It has been the warmest day in the history since anyone starting measuring, and the summer days haven't started globally yet is a pretty factual way to put it in my book

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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Post by twoodfin »

HelloMcFly wrote: post #15
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #8

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It’s supposed to be Congress’ job to do something, but unfortunately they appear to be useless.

Except in this instance, the conservative justices completely abandoned their "textualism" argument given the law in question was written by Congress to do precisely what they disallowed. And no, I don't want to hear that "well clearly not since they ruled against it." To be clear: I'm talking about their redefinition of the word "adjacent". Forgive me if I'm not following the thread correctly here. Justice Alito see…

Almost all waters are “literally connected to each other” in a manner that’s clearly beyond anything Congress intended to regulate when they revised the CWA.

It’s just a matter of how intimately connected.

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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Post by pkulak »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #8
ThisIsNowhere wrote: post #6

Well the US Supreme Court said last year that any new Environmental Protection Agency regulation is invalid on creation, so there's that.

It’s supposed to be Congress’ job to do something, but unfortunately they appear to be useless.

Well, half are.

Re: Monday was hottest day for global average temperature, as climate crisis bites

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Post by replygirl »

_Microft wrote: post #13
replygirl wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the boy who cried wolf is about that

You're mistaken there: "The boy who cried wolf" is about lying about there being a wolf while it isn't, not about speaking the truth but nobody wanting to listen. Edit: check for yourself if you like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf

i think you misjudged this as a climate denialist comment. it's not.

the boy who cried wolf was about someone stirring hysteria so much it desensitized people beyond the point of caring when the threat was actually existential. it's not a perfect analogy but basically we've been crying wolf for decades (focusing on the wrong things: denuclearization, air quality, ozone layer, full-electric cars; vs. energy density, dense land uses, hybrids, democratic economies, etc.) and now that the wolf is starting to eat us, crying more won't help

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