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Re: Pornhub cuts off more US users in ongoing protest over age-verification laws

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Post by rcme »

DropInIn wrote: post #49
rcme wrote: post #32

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> Parents have the keys and vehicles in easy access to the children but by and large it's not a problem. It looks like you refute your own argument here. We don't highly regulate automobile access because it's not an issue. Most kids don't have a desire to steal their parents cars, so why would we regulate that? Many kids do have the desire to access things that may harm their development. So you can see why your ana…

Kia boys? Seriously... You dont know what you're talking about. The vast majority of auto thefts are children taking the family car unauthorized, including well below the age of a learners permit.

Even if what you say is true regarding familial auto theft, which I highly doubt, the percentage of auto thefts committed by children is irrelevant. The more relevant question is “what percentage of children are involved in auto theft” not “what percentage of auto thefts involve children.” The answer to “what percentage of children are involved in auto thefts” is a minuscule amount. Conversely, “what percentage of children access harmful content” is likely quite high. Do you see the difference?

Re: Pornhub cuts off more US users in ongoing protest over age-verification laws

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Post by herewulf »

paulddraper wrote: post #42
tibbydudeza wrote: post #27

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Only in puritan US is there such nonsense as age verification for booze and cigs yet you can go out and shoot up your school. LOL. Kids will do stupid things and test their boundaries - they will drink , smoke weed and have pre marital sex - best to do is that you as a parent have instilled some values and advice how to do it responsibly.

We should require age verification for shooting up schools too. (Am I following your argument correctly?)

The argument is there are bigger problems to worry about. Note that today there have been three mass shootings in the US. And the day isn't over yet.

And 2023 has been historically bad.

Re: Pornhub cuts off more US users in ongoing protest over age-verification laws

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Post by DropInIn »

rcme wrote: post #51
DropInIn wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kia boys? Seriously... You dont know what you're talking about. The vast majority of auto thefts are children taking the family car unauthorized, including well below the age of a learners permit.

Even if what you say is true regarding familial auto theft, which I highly doubt, the percentage of auto thefts committed by children is irrelevant. The more relevant question is “what percentage of children are involved in auto theft” not “what percentage of auto thefts involve children.” The answer to “what percentage of children are involved in auto thefts” is a minuscule amount. Conversely, “what percentage of ch…

They go unreported and dealt with in the family, with the vehicle not being destroyed.

Then the therea the class of theft referenced with Kia Boys... Literally teenagers and preteens stealing cars with USB cables....

Go look at reality first before you try to tell me what it is.

Re: Pornhub cuts off more US users in ongoing protest over age-verification laws

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Post by paulddraper »

herewulf wrote: post #52
paulddraper wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We should require age verification for shooting up schools too. (Am I following your argument correctly?)

The argument is there are bigger problems to worry about. Note that today there have been three mass shootings in the US. And the day isn't over yet. And 2023 has been historically bad.

Those aren't even necessarily different things.

Mass murderers are mentally unwell and feel isolated from society.

Both of which are correlated to porn abuse.

Re: Pornhub cuts off more US users in ongoing protest over age-verification laws

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Post by rcme »

DropInIn wrote: post #53
rcme wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if what you say is true regarding familial auto theft, which I highly doubt, the percentage of auto thefts committed by children is irrelevant. The more relevant question is “what percentage of children are involved in auto theft” not “what percentage of auto thefts involve children.” The answer to “what percentage of children are involved in auto thefts” is a minuscule amount. Conversely, “what percentage of ch…

They go unreported and dealt with in the family, with the vehicle not being destroyed. Then the therea the class of theft referenced with Kia Boys... Literally teenagers and preteens stealing cars with USB cables.... Go look at reality first before you try to tell me what it is.

Again, auto thefts is a relatively rare event. There are 1,000,000 auto thefts per year and 279,000,000 vehicles, so 1/279 vehicles are involved with a theft every year. Do you think only 1/279 children access harmful content? Also, I’m very interested in how you’ve determined that there are more than 500,000+ instances of familial auto theft each year for your claim that most auto theft is familial if these thefts go unreported. You wouldn’t have made up a statistic, would you?

Taking this point even further: you mentioned the consequence of this apparent grave problem is death. How many people actually die every year from the grievous problem? I can’t find any deaths caused by kids stealing their parents cars personally, but I’m sure you’re aware of thousands. You must have some good numbers here as I doubt many deaths go unreported.

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Post by throwaway98721 »

badpun wrote: post #41
throwaway98721 wrote: post #36

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You live in the most puritan country in EU. Polish women have to illegally (because your country made it illegal for pregnant women) cross borders to have medically necessary abortions and then they will be persecuted if they return. Anyways, I never had to produce ID when I bought alcohol and cigarettes while I visited Poland.

Please read what Purtanism is, before you start talking about it. E.g. here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puritans (short version - puritanism was a movement that orignated on the British Isles, and spread to the US from there. It never ever made it to Poland). As for the original issue - once it's visibly obvious that you're over 18, nobody asks you to produce your ID. The only exceptions are automated (self-servic…

Notice that I said "puritan", not "Puritan" - "puritan" usually doesn't mean anything directly connected to the Puritans in modern discourse. Check the dictionary. It has a generalized primary meaning today. And your country is the definition of it (of course, also not literally).

From your link: "Puritanism was never a formally defined religious division within Protestantism, and the term Puritan itself was rarely used after the turn of the 18th century." - that makes it extremely unlikely I meant it literally, don't you think?

As for the original issue - I wasn't over 18 back then and it was very visible.

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Post by throwaway98721 »

willcipriano wrote: post #40
throwaway98721 wrote: post #37

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I think you're confusing websites. Pornhub requires verification of consent and removed all unverified/not professional videos.

How does porn hub verify they aren't drug addicts?

Why would it? Even drug addicts are capable of consent.

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Post by paulddraper »

johngladtj wrote: post #20
paulddraper wrote: post #14

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Wow this is really interesting suggestion. I'm firmly in the "porn and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race" camp. We require actual age verification for tobacco and alcohol. I don't see a reason not to require the same for porn. That said, I am interested in the most effective ways to keep tobacco, alcohol, and porn out of the hands of minors.

We should not require it for those things either.

Really? Twelve year old wants to buy a six pack and you say okay here you go kid.

Re: Pornhub cuts off more US users in ongoing protest over age-verification laws

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Post by DropInIn »

rcme wrote: post #55
DropInIn wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They go unreported and dealt with in the family, with the vehicle not being destroyed. Then the therea the class of theft referenced with Kia Boys... Literally teenagers and preteens stealing cars with USB cables.... Go look at reality first before you try to tell me what it is.

Again, auto thefts is a relatively rare event. There are 1,000,000 auto thefts per year and 279,000,000 vehicles, so 1/279 vehicles are involved with a theft every year. Do you think only 1/279 children access harmful content? Also, I’m very interested in how you’ve determined that there are more than 500,000+ instances of familial auto theft each year for your claim that most auto theft is familial if these thefts g…

https://www.google.com/search?q=kid+stole+parent+car+die

Did you even try to look?

First result is literally "Boys, 6 and 3, Crash Parents' Car While Driving to Toy Store".... Do I need to continue or can you use Google yourself?

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