Pornhub cuts off more US users in ongoing protest over age-verification laws

Post by badpun » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 2:25 PM UTC

throwaway98721 wrote: post #36

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> Yes advertising restrictions for tobacco companies but there is no need to produce a govt ID when purchasing vapes, booze or cigs. What country do you have in mind specifically? I live in a non-puritan country (Poland) and we absolutely need to produce the ID.

You live in the most puritan country in EU. Polish women have to illegally (because your country made it illegal for pregnant women) cross borders to have medically necessary abortions and then they will be persecuted if they return. Anyways, I never had to produce ID when I bought alcohol and cigarettes while I visited Poland.

Post by paulddraper » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 3:24 PM UTC

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Wow this is really interesting suggestion. I'm firmly in the "porn and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race" camp. We require actual age verification for tobacco and alcohol. I don't see a reason not to require the same for porn. That said, I am interested in the most effective ways to keep tobacco, alcohol, and porn out of the hands of minors.

I agree that widely available pornography has probably been a net negative for society. However: 1. I'm not convinced that it is markedly worse than other harmful content which is now widely available on the internet. 2. I don't think efficacy should be the primary consideration. For instance, mass censorship is rather effective, but clearly unconscionable. I'm not sure if you can make a cure which isn't worse than t…

Post by manvillej » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 4:27 PM UTC

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> the right way to do this is to legislate that these sites add the RTA header to any domain/url that may have adult or user-generated content ... > A header is trivial to add, trivial to verify is active and the legal liability is then shifted to the parent as it is for everything else related to their child. No, you just said the web site is responsible for publishing the header, which means they have legal liabili…

> No, you just said the web site is responsible for publishing the header, which means they have legal liability. I can see the difference. Website has the liability for not adding the header. Parents have the liability for not “enforcing” checks on devices a child might use. It’s a clever proposal but more details will need to be thought through.

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 6:33 PM UTC

badpun wrote: post #41

throwaway98721 wrote: post #36

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You live in the most puritan country in EU. Polish women have to illegally (because your country made it illegal for pregnant women) cross borders to have medically necessary abortions and then they will be persecuted if they return. Anyways, I never had to produce ID when I bought alcohol and cigarettes while I visited Poland.

Please read what Purtanism is, before you start talking about it. E.g. here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puritans (short version - puritanism was a movement that orignated on the British Isles, and spread to the US from there. It never ever made it to Poland). As for the original issue - once it's visibly obvious that you're over 18, nobody asks you to produce your ID. The only exceptions are automated (self-servic…

Post by DropInIn » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 6:56 PM UTC

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Kids aren't allowed to drive. Parents have the keys and vehicles in easy access to the children but by and large it's not a problem. Interesting that despite actual deaths occuring as a result of this norm (when kids do take the cars and crash), we haven't added a law that that only opens the car on a fingerprint scan or some shit, which is effectively what this is equivalent to. If DEATH doesn't justify such draconi…

> Parents have the keys and vehicles in easy access to the children but by and large it's not a problem. It looks like you refute your own argument here. We don't highly regulate automobile access because it's not an issue. Most kids don't have a desire to steal their parents cars, so why would we regulate that? Many kids do have the desire to access things that may harm their development. So you can see why your ana…