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Whole-brain connectome of the fruit fly

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Re: Whole-brain connectome of the fruit fly

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Post by pas »

autophagian wrote: post #12
rcme wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't utility credits called money?

No. If I have 100 dollars, I might have gotten those from betting on old person fight ring in a care home - a net utility negative, or I might have gotten it from teaching disadvantaged teenagers PHP - a net utility positive. If you have 100 UC, the only way those credits could have been minted is through 100 hours of 1 million simulated fruit flies having the time of their life.

why do you think the elderly ought not enjoy some full-contact shenanigans!?

Re: Whole-brain connectome of the fruit fly

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Post by ClaraForm »

autophagian wrote: post #3

There's lots of very exciting work going on around the fully mapped fruit fly connectome. For example, I'm a CTO of a stealth startup that aims to do for utilitarianism what carbon credits did for environmentalism. We are selling 'utility credits' which translates directly into us simulating trillions and trillions of fruit fly brains in a state of constant orgasmic bliss, which you can then buy to offset any actions…

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Re: Whole-brain connectome of the fruit fly

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Post by shever73 »

autophagian wrote: post #12
rcme wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't utility credits called money?

No. If I have 100 dollars, I might have gotten those from betting on old person fight ring in a care home - a net utility negative, or I might have gotten it from teaching disadvantaged teenagers PHP - a net utility positive. If you have 100 UC, the only way those credits could have been minted is through 100 hours of 1 million simulated fruit flies having the time of their life.

> I might have gotten it from teaching disadvantaged teenagers PHP

Aren't they disadvantaged enough??

Re: Whole-brain connectome of the fruit fly

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Post by danparsonson »

autophagian wrote: post #12
rcme wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't utility credits called money?

No. If I have 100 dollars, I might have gotten those from betting on old person fight ring in a care home - a net utility negative, or I might have gotten it from teaching disadvantaged teenagers PHP - a net utility positive. If you have 100 UC, the only way those credits could have been minted is through 100 hours of 1 million simulated fruit flies having the time of their life.

>...old person fight ring in a care home - a net utility negative...

Given the potential for freeing up much needed beds, I think this is debatable

Re: Whole-brain connectome of the fruit fly

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Post by short_sells_poo »

autophagian wrote: post #3

There's lots of very exciting work going on around the fully mapped fruit fly connectome. For example, I'm a CTO of a stealth startup that aims to do for utilitarianism what carbon credits did for environmentalism. We are selling 'utility credits' which translates directly into us simulating trillions and trillions of fruit fly brains in a state of constant orgasmic bliss, which you can then buy to offset any actions…

Sprinkle some blockchain bullshit around this and you'll be drowning in money :)

Re: Whole-brain connectome of the fruit fly

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Post by moffkalast »

autophagian wrote: post #3

There's lots of very exciting work going on around the fully mapped fruit fly connectome. For example, I'm a CTO of a stealth startup that aims to do for utilitarianism what carbon credits did for environmentalism. We are selling 'utility credits' which translates directly into us simulating trillions and trillions of fruit fly brains in a state of constant orgasmic bliss, which you can then buy to offset any actions…

Sounds about as legit as carbon offsets genuinely are.

Re: Whole-brain connectome of the fruit fly

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Post by ramraj07 »

ranting-moth wrote: post #17

This is very interesting. Any wild guesses how far (in years) away from building a synthetic fruit fly? 10 years? By synthetic I mean a fly that doesn't die and that can be reproduced again.

I’d estimate We are 5 to 10 years away from somewhat deciding the effective connectome and “algorithms” of the roundworm which just has a few hundred neurons. We know every neuron in it by name and know how they all connect to each other, yet we have very little clue how they all end up creating the behavior we see in the worm. We are quite far away from truly mapping every neurons connection and functional effect in a fruit fly which has tens of thousands of neurons.

Re: Whole-brain connectome of the fruit fly

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Post by op00to »

danparsonson wrote: post #24
autophagian wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. If I have 100 dollars, I might have gotten those from betting on old person fight ring in a care home - a net utility negative, or I might have gotten it from teaching disadvantaged teenagers PHP - a net utility positive. If you have 100 UC, the only way those credits could have been minted is through 100 hours of 1 million simulated fruit flies having the time of their life.

>...old person fight ring in a care home - a net utility negative... Given the potential for freeing up much needed beds, I think this is debatable

If you think about it toughening up our elderly could increase their health and cause them to not need care beds as much. After the initial beatings I mean.

Re: Whole-brain connectome of the fruit fly

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Post by danparsonson »

op00to wrote: post #28
danparsonson wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>...old person fight ring in a care home - a net utility negative... Given the potential for freeing up much needed beds, I think this is debatable

If you think about it toughening up our elderly could increase their health and cause them to not need care beds as much. After the initial beatings I mean.

Hmm good point, I didn't think about that - it's a complex issue I guess

Re: Whole-brain connectome of the fruit fly

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Post by hobofan »

chaxor wrote: post #16

Awesome! Are there any simple downloads that have just annotations and connectivity? Like a sparse adjacency matrix with annotations of the node and edge features (neuron type, etc). I didn't see any immediately. A condensed representation of the 3d model should be pretty great for researchers as well.

Yes, if you sign up in the Downloads sections (found in the header menu), there are individual downloads for neurons and connections (and other parts that make up the whole thing).
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