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why? then what are the alternatives of google analytics. Google is big guient that are collecting all world data. alternative platforms are doing the same. We are not secure anywhere i think. Privacy is already brocken, no options.
> then what are the alternatives Don't stalk people is the alternative.
This case is about the old Analytics that was replaced with Google Analytics 4 in 2020. So they must stop using a version that Google definitely killed July 1 this year. There are arguments that GA4 would fail the same requirements. Denmark hold that view but it hasn't been tried. Their argument is that a EU-citizen that goes to Asia and visits a site there, will have his information sent to US servers and not EU ser…
> According to the data protection regulation, GDPR, personal data may be transferred to third countries, i.e. countries outside the EU/EEA, if the European Commission has decided that the country in question has an adequate level of protection for personal data that corresponds to that within the EU/EEA. However, the CJEU ruled through the Schrems II ruling that the United States could not be considered to have such…
The CJEU ruling about the US is mainly due to the fact that US service providers have to hand over all data if US government agencies request it.
why? then what are the alternatives of google analytics. Google is big guient that are collecting all world data. alternative platforms are doing the same. We are not secure anywhere i think. Privacy is already brocken, no options.
> Privacy is already brocken, no options. And thus you question every attempt to fix it?
GA, GTM, GSC are the top tools we have to use.
If you are a business website owner
When I worked at companies using google analytics, 99.9% of the time they could have gotten this data from server logs with something like awstats or goaccess.
To this day, I still don't get what's the point of embedding some javascript to do extra-requests or a tracking pixel, when the data was already given once.
This case is about the old Analytics that was replaced with Google Analytics 4 in 2020. So they must stop using a version that Google definitely killed July 1 this year. There are arguments that GA4 would fail the same requirements. Denmark hold that view but it hasn't been tried. Their argument is that a EU-citizen that goes to Asia and visits a site there, will have his information sent to US servers and not EU ser…
For those who look for an alternative https://plausible.io is a great replacement.
Great for plausible.io of course. But what is the difference for the end user? - GDPR: hosted in EU vs US, so your data is traveling less far. The things the plausible can do with the data is more or less the same. - No cookies: don't see the point of that tbh, they will probably perform even more invasive tricks like finger printing to replace the cookie requirement Bottom line, the website visitors data is still lo…
why? then what are the alternatives of google analytics. Google is big guient that are collecting all world data. alternative platforms are doing the same. We are not secure anywhere i think. Privacy is already brocken, no options.
Because of the law in US that the governments have right to all data stored on any server that a US company or its subsidiaritets own. That clash with the EU GDPR law and the fact that Sweden categorize IP-adress as a Privacy data point. I.e they can switch to a European vendor that do tracking and analytics.
Analytics right now is basically "you won't get any useful information for your website because we value users' privacy, don't worry we see all of the data anyway" Remember, you aren't the customer if you embed Google Analytics, Google is. edit: if you want analytics, honestly just roll your own... you can't trust advertising companies with your users' data
"Roll your own" is hubris, unless you have the time, energy, inclination, theoretical knowledge, etc; I wouldn't try and solve solved problems if you can help it. But, host your own is definitely recommended IMO; a lot of the GDPR issues are resolved if you just host your own, because no data is shared to a 3rd party. Then you only need to worry about getting some approval and data retention. I'm sure data retention…
With that being said, I don't make everything myself, but just the thought that I'm not obliged to use the best-practice standard solution to the problem is liberating to me and it makes me so much more productive in actually doing stuff.
As a web developer, I didn't see it as a big problem. We always do it to maximize ad revenue, find out where users leave to increase conversion rate, and simply to improve UX. But even when the intent is to improve UX, tracking is inappripriate.
Imagine if a robot vacuum recorded videos of your home and uploaded them so that bunch of ML engineers can see and use it to improve the algorithm. Or the videos of your car's camera (both of inside and outside). I mean, I'm not surprised if this is already happening, but it's a disturbing thought and should be regulated.
We can certainly develop functional services without tracking users.