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Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by p1necone »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #310
p1necone wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got the opposite request. I'd love a native 720p oled of a decent size for playing Switch (and PS3/360, I've got a bit of collection) games on. It's probably a niche market, but most games on the switch run natively at somewhere between 720 and 1080p and look awful scaled up to 4k.

Or maybe Nintendo should upgrade the 2014 Android SoC of the Switch so games could run on modern resolutions. There must be TVs or scalers out there you can buy that are used by retro gamers and let you runt 1:1 scaling on modern TVs. Or you can emulate the Switch games and run them at natively higher res. Either way, I'm sure there are solutions for you out there instead of display manufacturers having to go back 20…

It wasn't a serious suggestion for a product, I'm aware there's no market for it.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by alpaca128 »

Dalewyn wrote: post #173
diziet wrote: post #105

I think there are three groups of people with opinions regarding 120Hz vs 60Hz refresh rate. Group 1 can tell the difference between the two and strongly prefers 120Hz. Group 2 can't tell the difference between the two and prefers the more affordable options. Group 3 has not done a lot of comparisons between the two refresh rates, or has used 120Hz displays that were actually in 60Hz mode, or compared lower resolutio…

As someone who has a 240Hz 1920x1080 Dell monitor, the 60Hz is intolerably choppy and 120Hz is the budget/compromise option. Seriously, getting at least a 120Hz monitor makes for a world of difference because it makes everything smoother. Increases in resolution beyond 1920x1080 meanwhile are going to quickly hit the point of diminishing returns, anything beyond 2160p particularly so.

I have a 240Hz screen as well and decided to go back to 4k with 60Hz. Yes, the difference is very noticeable in direct comparisons, but in reality I think about other things when using my computer and 60Hz still feels smooth enough for desktop use. Meanwhile text on a 1080p screen above 15" feels more like reading low-res bitmap fonts and strains my eyes nowadays.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by morsch »

wesapien wrote: post #289
111111IIIIIII wrote: post #85

I just purchased 2 of the 6Ks and I am keeping both. AMA. I do not understand the complaints about pixel density. The display is 223 ppi, which is the same or slightly higher than Apple displays. I am using them in a dual display configuration with an M1 Macbook Pro via TB4 and a Windows PC with an RTX 4090 via DisplayPort. The KVM feature makes switching back and forth a breeze. I am using 175% scaling (in Windows)…

Does the refresh rate go higher if you configure it to 4k or 2k?

I don't think so https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/cae72f76

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

p1necone wrote: post #351
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or maybe Nintendo should upgrade the 2014 Android SoC of the Switch so games could run on modern resolutions. There must be TVs or scalers out there you can buy that are used by retro gamers and let you runt 1:1 scaling on modern TVs. Or you can emulate the Switch games and run them at natively higher res. Either way, I'm sure there are solutions for you out there instead of display manufacturers having to go back 20…

It wasn't a serious suggestion for a product, I'm aware there's no market for it.

Why not buy an older second hand 720p TV?

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by LeafItAlone »

veidr wrote: post #170

Absolutely, hell no, if you are talking about the screen itself. The difference in crispness between the Dell UP321K (~280ppi at 7680x64280 at 31.5 inches) and this new U3224KBA (~220ppi at 6144 x 3456 at 32") is dramatic . The new Dell 6K is about the same as the Apple 6K (the XDR Pro Display). I had that 6K Apple and the 8K Dell side-by-side on my desk for a few months (until I could find a buyer for the dramatical…

> I need my glasses to use the 6K for long stretches and I don't even really need to wear them with the 8K

It’s not obvious to me why this would happen. Can you share why this is?

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by saiya-jin »

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #302
kimburgess wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forget 4K, 6K, or 8K. Pixel density is the spec when considering any display. It doesn't matter if it's a wearable, phone, laptop, monitor, TV, or stadium wrapping LED surface, the only important factors for resolution are the distance to the viewer's eyes and the distance between the pixels. For context, 20/20 vision is the ability to perceive 1 arcminute of angular resolution. Beyond that point there are diminishin…

So, if 25 cm is an optimal viewing distance, 350 ppi is maximum phone screen density required?

25cm is pretty bad viewing distance, a good way to mess up your eyes long term

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by alkonaut »

Matheus28 wrote: post #3

Slightly off topic but I can’t wait until there’s a 120 Hz 8K monitor. It’s the only thing holding me back from upgrading from 4K. I wonder if the current limitation is on the panels, cable bandwidth or absurd price tag…

I wish some monitors would have good hybrid uses like being able to do say 6K 60Hz and some much lower res (2K) at 120 or something.

I can definitely live with 60Hz on desktop if I have to, and I can't game at 6K anyway, so doing 2K@120Hz gaming and 6K@60Hz or 8K@60Hz desktop work would be ideal, and wouldn't get into the silly bandwidths of 8K@120.

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

hilbert42 wrote: post #298

"Is a matte screen the better option compared to the 8K monitor’s glossy finish? Surprisingly, I found that I don’t like the matte screen better! It’s hard to describe, but somehow the picture seems more “dull”, or less bright (independent of the actual brightness of the monitor), or more toned down. The colors don’t pop as much." A useful post. Whilst I've not yet had the luxury of owning a 6k or 8k monitor his comm…

I prefer matte screens by far. Sure, they don't look as shiny, and that's the point!

It allows for a more exact color representation with less eye strain, especially in brightly lit conditions. No lamps glare, sunlight doesn't bother you as much, etc.

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Post by hilbert42 »

microtonal wrote: post #299
hilbert42 wrote: post #298

"Is a matte screen the better option compared to the 8K monitor’s glossy finish? Surprisingly, I found that I don’t like the matte screen better! It’s hard to describe, but somehow the picture seems more “dull”, or less bright (independent of the actual brightness of the monitor), or more toned down. The colors don’t pop as much." A useful post. Whilst I've not yet had the luxury of owning a 6k or 8k monitor his comm…

I agree. I thought I generally prefer matte for office displays. But even since purchasing a Studio Display, matte display just look dull. Also the Studio Display seems to avoid reflections by auto adjusting the brightness when the room is well-lighted.

Yeah, that makes sense. In an office one's more likely to be doing say word-processing in a highly-lit environment where detail and contrast aren't that important. I normally do photo editing in subdued low-light conditions where gloss is not an issue.

Edit: Incidentally, I'm typing this on my Lenovo ThinkPad which has matte screen but I'm using an external monitor with a glossy screen which I prefer (to be fair, it's also slightly larger). No, it wasn't a mistake at purchase time, it was given to me. :-)

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by dzogchen »

I bought this 6K monitor, but I did not like

1) The scaling on macOS. Everything was way too big. There were not enough options for fractional scaling.

2) The matte finish. I came from another matte Dell monitor, but the whole screen looked slightly fuzzy, like a permanent oil stain all over the monitor.

3) The contrast sucks. They call it 'IPS Black' but I was not impressed. The colors look different depending on the angle. This is probably an issue with the size of the monitor as well, as when you look at the left size, the angle to the right size is pretty big.

Lastly I did not like the size either, but I will have that with every 31.5 inch monitor.

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