Side note: Who still uses PH anyway? It's now literally a "freemium OnlyFans" since it exclusively shows content from known, direct producers. That's a useless fraction of what's available, especially if you're not interested in US content.
Pornhub cuts off more US users in ongoing protest over age-verification laws
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Re: Pornhub cuts off more US users in ongoing protest over age-verification laws
#22Think of the children while the tech and legal systems for verified identities are beta tested. I think the internet is moving towards assuming everyone is a bad actor by default and you’ll need to verify your identity with government issued ID to prove you’re a good actor. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we end up needing accounts verified via government ID to participate online in a meaningful way.
> I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we end up needing accounts verified via government ID to participate online in a meaningful way.
This is already proposed in the UKs Online Safety Bill. Countries such as Australia will immediately follow as our e-safety commissioner froths eroding the privacy of Australian citizens.
Re: Pornhub cuts off more US users in ongoing protest over age-verification laws
#23I hope that law makers, PH and perhaps the EFF help people see that a government database is not the appropriate means to deal with under-age access to adult or user-generated content. As mentioned previously [1][2] the right way to do this is to legislate that these sites add the RTA header to any domain/url that may have adult or user-generated content and then recognize this header in the most common web clients s…
Wow this is really interesting suggestion. I'm firmly in the "porn and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race" camp. We require actual age verification for tobacco and alcohol. I don't see a reason not to require the same for porn. That said, I am interested in the most effective ways to keep tobacco, alcohol, and porn out of the hands of minors.
I agree that widely available pornography has probably been a net negative for society. However:
1. I'm not convinced that it is markedly worse than other harmful content which is now widely available on the internet.
2. I don't think efficacy should be the primary consideration. For instance, mass censorship is rather effective, but clearly unconscionable. I'm not sure if you can make a cure which isn't worse than the disease.
Re: Pornhub cuts off more US users in ongoing protest over age-verification laws
#24I hope that law makers, PH and perhaps the EFF help people see that a government database is not the appropriate means to deal with under-age access to adult or user-generated content. As mentioned previously [1][2] the right way to do this is to legislate that these sites add the RTA header to any domain/url that may have adult or user-generated content and then recognize this header in the most common web clients s…
Wow this is really interesting suggestion. I'm firmly in the "porn and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race" camp. We require actual age verification for tobacco and alcohol. I don't see a reason not to require the same for porn. That said, I am interested in the most effective ways to keep tobacco, alcohol, and porn out of the hands of minors.
Unless you legislate age restriction on the Bible you can't reasonably argue for porn restriction...
Images of consenting adults is a far cry less offensive and damaging than parables and stories explicitly stating girls should be fed to rape crazed mobs in order to protect "special guests", amoung many other horrors....
Re: Pornhub cuts off more US users in ongoing protest over age-verification laws
#25I hope that law makers, PH and perhaps the EFF help people see that a government database is not the appropriate means to deal with under-age access to adult or user-generated content. As mentioned previously [1][2] the right way to do this is to legislate that these sites add the RTA header to any domain/url that may have adult or user-generated content and then recognize this header in the most common web clients s…
Parental controls are trivial to bypass. I don’t support a government database either, but suggesting digital parental controls is not a valid solution.
Kids aren't allowed to drive.
Parents have the keys and vehicles in easy access to the children but by and large it's not a problem.
Interesting that despite actual deaths occuring as a result of this norm (when kids do take the cars and crash), we haven't added a law that that only opens the car on a fingerprint scan or some shit, which is effectively what this is equivalent to.
If DEATH doesn't justify such draconian measures then porn most definitely doesn't
Re: Pornhub cuts off more US users in ongoing protest over age-verification laws
#26This law is little different than having a fingerprint scan on your car that log and reports your usage to the government.
Seriously, it's pretty much the same shit.... Except cars actually kill people...
Re: Pornhub cuts off more US users in ongoing protest over age-verification laws
#27I hope that law makers, PH and perhaps the EFF help people see that a government database is not the appropriate means to deal with under-age access to adult or user-generated content. As mentioned previously [1][2] the right way to do this is to legislate that these sites add the RTA header to any domain/url that may have adult or user-generated content and then recognize this header in the most common web clients s…
Wow this is really interesting suggestion. I'm firmly in the "porn and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race" camp. We require actual age verification for tobacco and alcohol. I don't see a reason not to require the same for porn. That said, I am interested in the most effective ways to keep tobacco, alcohol, and porn out of the hands of minors.
Only in puritan US is there such nonsense as age verification for booze and cigs yet you can go out and shoot up your school.
LOL.
Kids will do stupid things and test their boundaries - they will drink , smoke weed and have pre marital sex - best to do is that you as a parent have instilled some values and advice how to do it responsibly.
Re: Pornhub cuts off more US users in ongoing protest over age-verification laws
#28Good. How many more to go?
Re: Pornhub cuts off more US users in ongoing protest over age-verification laws
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wow this is really interesting suggestion. I'm firmly in the "porn and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race" camp. We require actual age verification for tobacco and alcohol. I don't see a reason not to require the same for porn. That said, I am interested in the most effective ways to keep tobacco, alcohol, and porn out of the hands of minors.
Only in puritan US is there such nonsense as age verification for booze and cigs yet you can go out and shoot up your school. LOL. Kids will do stupid things and test their boundaries - they will drink , smoke weed and have pre marital sex - best to do is that you as a parent have instilled some values and advice how to do it responsibly.
In non-puritan countries there are still age restrictions for cigarettes and alcohol, but you cannot get a gun easily. Seems like it doesn’t have anything to do with puritanism at all, and the main differentiating factor is just US’s love affair with guns.
Re: Pornhub cuts off more US users in ongoing protest over age-verification laws
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Only in puritan US is there such nonsense as age verification for booze and cigs yet you can go out and shoot up your school. LOL. Kids will do stupid things and test their boundaries - they will drink , smoke weed and have pre marital sex - best to do is that you as a parent have instilled some values and advice how to do it responsibly.
In non-puritan countries there are still age restrictions for cigarettes and alcohol, but you cannot get a gun easily. Seems like it doesn’t have anything to do with puritanism at all, and the main differentiating factor is just US’s love affair with guns.
Yes advertising restrictions for tobacco companies but there is no need to produce a govt ID when purchasing vapes, booze or cigs.
You just walk up and the cashier eyeballs you and if you an obvious minor but then you get a friend that plays sports to buy it - just seem like a silly liability waiver for not getting sued when Timmy DUI's and wipes out somebody.