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Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by aftbit »

111111IIIIIII wrote: post #85

I just purchased 2 of the 6Ks and I am keeping both. AMA. I do not understand the complaints about pixel density. The display is 223 ppi, which is the same or slightly higher than Apple displays. I am using them in a dual display configuration with an M1 Macbook Pro via TB4 and a Windows PC with an RTX 4090 via DisplayPort. The KVM feature makes switching back and forth a breeze. I am using 175% scaling (in Windows)…

Does it support DDC over i2c? I want at least sleep mode, input, and brightness control.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by Dylan16807 »

mkozlows wrote: post #43
stalfosknight wrote: post #17

Why is it that pretty much all displays in the PC world have such dismal pixel densities (< 226 ppi)? It would be nice to be able to shop for a new desktop display without having to give up Retina in macOS.

Because they're expensive. It's the same reason that phones have higher DPI than laptops/tablets do -- what's economical on a 6" screen isn't on a 13", and what's economical on 13" isn't on 27." (Why? Yields. A 6" phone screen is like 12 square inches. A 27" desktop monitor is over 300 square inches. If you have a 98% yield of phone screens without defects, that implies only one defect per ~600 square inches, which m…

The missing factor here is how pixel density affects yields. How does that scale for a same-size screen at 1080, 4k, 8k?

And smaller defects are better when you do sell off the imperfect panels.

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Post by photonbeam »

Dalewyn wrote: post #173
diziet wrote: post #105

I think there are three groups of people with opinions regarding 120Hz vs 60Hz refresh rate. Group 1 can tell the difference between the two and strongly prefers 120Hz. Group 2 can't tell the difference between the two and prefers the more affordable options. Group 3 has not done a lot of comparisons between the two refresh rates, or has used 120Hz displays that were actually in 60Hz mode, or compared lower resolutio…

As someone who has a 240Hz 1920x1080 Dell monitor, the 60Hz is intolerably choppy and 120Hz is the budget/compromise option. Seriously, getting at least a 120Hz monitor makes for a world of difference because it makes everything smoother. Increases in resolution beyond 1920x1080 meanwhile are going to quickly hit the point of diminishing returns, anything beyond 2160p particularly so.

Its not a resolution issue, its DPI and viewing distance. I read text on a monitor all day, 4k in a 24inch frame at desk chair distance is the minimum for me

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Post by eek2121 »

diziet wrote: post #105

I think there are three groups of people with opinions regarding 120Hz vs 60Hz refresh rate. Group 1 can tell the difference between the two and strongly prefers 120Hz. Group 2 can't tell the difference between the two and prefers the more affordable options. Group 3 has not done a lot of comparisons between the two refresh rates, or has used 120Hz displays that were actually in 60Hz mode, or compared lower resolutio…

If you can't tell the difference between > 60hz and 60hz, you may want to get your vision checked. I'd say once you get to 75-80hz the returns start to diminish, and by 120 things are hard to notice, but 60hz and 120hz differences are definitely noticeable.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by whatever1 »

FYI in Macrumors [1] forum users found that when connected via thuderbolt 4 in Apple Silicon Macs, you dont get the full resolution, because MacOS does not enable DSC. In short you get max 6016 x 3384 instead of the native for the monitor 6144×3456.

You have to either use the HDMI port from the Mac (if you have an M2 one) or use a usbc to HDMI converter which for some reason triggers the DSC.

[1] https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/dell-6k-u3224kb-monitor...

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by 111111IIIIIII »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #238
111111IIIIIII wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point is none of these refresh rates are multiples of 23.976.

So set your monitor to 119.88 instead of 120. Theres a reason why monitors give you both x/1000 and x/1001 framerates.

I didn't know this was possible, but in such a case why not set a 60Hz display to 48Hz, 59.95Hz, etc.?

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Post by grogenaut »

brailsafe wrote: post #243
TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s an app called Synergy that lets you seamlessly move mouse and keyboard input between devices, if you ever feel the need to run the Mac and the Windows machines side by side rather than using a KVM switch.

But... it can be a bit spotty. A physical KVM will be far better.

do they make kvms for moving the mouse between screen borders or just switching displays / inputs to a seperate pc?

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Post by delta_p_delta_x »

cespare wrote: post #148
diziet wrote: post #105

I think there are three groups of people with opinions regarding 120Hz vs 60Hz refresh rate. Group 1 can tell the difference between the two and strongly prefers 120Hz. Group 2 can't tell the difference between the two and prefers the more affordable options. Group 3 has not done a lot of comparisons between the two refresh rates, or has used 120Hz displays that were actually in 60Hz mode, or compared lower resolutio…

I don't think I'm in any of those groups. I own a variety of monitors and can easily tell the difference between 60hz and 120hz. All things being equal, I of course prefer 120hz (or 165hz as some of my gaming monitors support). I also own monitors at resolutions from 1440p to 4k. For doing work (programming, where I'm mostly looking at text), resolution makes a huge difference. I only do coding on high DPI screens an…

I want the best of both worlds. There exist 144 Hz 4K 27" monitors, such as the LG 27GP950/27GP95R. They're still LCD panels rather than OLED, but I am confident that OLED panels with these dimensions will arrive fairly soon.

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Post by jwells89 »

whatever1 wrote: post #255

FYI in Macrumors [1] forum users found that when connected via thuderbolt 4 in Apple Silicon Macs, you dont get the full resolution, because MacOS does not enable DSC. In short you get max 6016 x 3384 instead of the native for the monitor 6144×3456. You have to either use the HDMI port from the Mac (if you have an M2 one) or use a usbc to HDMI converter which for some reason triggers the DSC. [1] https://forums.macru…

Slight correction, the monitor will run at full resolution (6144x3456), but with 24-bit color instead of 30-bit. To get 30-bit over Thunderbolt one has to run it at 6016x3384. So effectively, you get full PPI or full color but not both.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by bonestamp2 »

jiggawatts wrote: post #180

We've had the technology for a while now to make an 8K HDR 120 Hz OLED monitor. The panel tech exists, the scalers exist, the ports and cables also both exist. We'll have this available for purchase any decade now... any decade. Soon, perhaps as early as the 2030s, 2040s tops! All joking aside, I'm tempted to create a GoFundMe page for this and see if there's other people out there interested in convincing a panel ma…

Since most computer OSs keep some things in the same place all day, wouldn't you get a lot of burn in with an OLED?
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