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Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

michael.stapelberg.ch

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Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Just give me a 2K monitor that turns on instantly, doesn’t hunt for sources, consumes less than 20W of power and I’ll be a happy guy. Bonus for having physical buttons to select explicit input sources without delays.

Why is power a concern?

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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I think there are three groups of people with opinions regarding 120Hz vs 60Hz refresh rate. Group 1 can tell the difference between the two and strongly prefers 120Hz. Group 2 can't tell the difference between the two and prefers the more affordable options. Group 3 has not done a lot of comparisons between the two refresh rates, or has used 120Hz displays that were actually in 60Hz mode, or compared lower resolutio…

I can tell the difference but it doesn’t do much for me (except in touch screen phones where I’m scrolling with my finger). I’m not a gamer, and I’m weird enough to turn off smooth scrolling in browsers and word processors because I hate it. So it’s really just a matter of how smooth the mouse cursor’s movement is.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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I just purchased 2 of the 6Ks and I am keeping both. AMA. I do not understand the complaints about pixel density. The display is 223 ppi, which is the same or slightly higher than Apple displays. I am using them in a dual display configuration with an M1 Macbook Pro via TB4 and a Windows PC with an RTX 4090 via DisplayPort. The KVM feature makes switching back and forth a breeze. I am using 175% scaling (in Windows)…

There’s an app called Synergy that lets you seamlessly move mouse and keyboard input between devices, if you ever feel the need to run the Mac and the Windows machines side by side rather than using a KVM switch.

But... it can be a bit spotty. A physical KVM will be far better.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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I just purchased 2 of the 6Ks and I am keeping both. AMA. I do not understand the complaints about pixel density. The display is 223 ppi, which is the same or slightly higher than Apple displays. I am using them in a dual display configuration with an M1 Macbook Pro via TB4 and a Windows PC with an RTX 4090 via DisplayPort. The KVM feature makes switching back and forth a breeze. I am using 175% scaling (in Windows)…

I have 3 24" Benq 2K video grade monitors running at 2560x1440 giving me nearly 11 million usable pixels. It has a huge boost in productivity for me. 4K TVs only seem to become usably readable with Chroma 4:4:4 at 38" or above, ideally curved, to get 4 usable 1920x1080 quadrants. When the screen sizes go smaller, absolutely detail and quality increases, but for software development or text centric work is concerned,…

I'm using a 30" Dell Ultrasharp which would be slightly less dense than yours. It's great, but I'd just like the same visual appeal as the macbook pro I have plugged into it. Text looks far better

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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8k@120Hz is going to need one heck of a video card

It's venturing into cryptocurrency-space-heater levels of pointless number crunching to render at that level of detail for anyone who has human eyes.

User interfaces shouldn't load a GPU very much even at that resolution.

8K in a game will use tremendous amounts of power, but it's not pointless. It's like having antialiasing turned on. And high frame rates are important for motion because normal rendering only gives you a single point in time.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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120 Hz feels a lot smoother for scrolling or anything with movement on the screen. 8K is the point in which at the monitor size I use, individual pixels would be too hard to see. They're already a bit hard to see at 4K, but at 8K it'd be perfect.

Just sit further away or get older :)

I'm trying to avoid either solution

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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post #105

I think there are three groups of people with opinions regarding 120Hz vs 60Hz refresh rate. Group 1 can tell the difference between the two and strongly prefers 120Hz. Group 2 can't tell the difference between the two and prefers the more affordable options. Group 3 has not done a lot of comparisons between the two refresh rates, or has used 120Hz displays that were actually in 60Hz mode, or compared lower resolutio…

I own 60hz, 90hz and 120hz displays and honestly can't find the difference between them. Everyone loves higher refresh rates but I can't feel ANY difference between them and they all feel the same. But I can see the difference when a game is at 60fps and 120fps on all of them. Not sure why

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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I just purchased 2 of the 6Ks and I am keeping both. AMA. I do not understand the complaints about pixel density. The display is 223 ppi, which is the same or slightly higher than Apple displays. I am using them in a dual display configuration with an M1 Macbook Pro via TB4 and a Windows PC with an RTX 4090 via DisplayPort. The KVM feature makes switching back and forth a breeze. I am using 175% scaling (in Windows)…

Can you elaborate on the kvm/switching feature? My current monitor is awful for that, I really just want a dedicated "cycle input" button. Or ideally, an N-position slider switch, but I can't imagine anyone would ever build such a thing.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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> The worst part of incorrect refresh rates for me is on panning footage and you get those janky blocky tears in the image. That sounds a lot more like rolling shutter artifacts than 3:2 pulldown. What kind of camera are you using? Are you shooting with a CMOS sensor? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_shutter > This sounds like something I've heard from people with a head full of fun stuff talking about the spa…

It has nothing to do with 3:2 pulldown. It is all about refresh rates of the monitor. I've shot for years on global shutter (specifically Sony F55), so it absolutely 100% was not a rolling shutter issue either. The same footage can be viewed on another monitor and the tearing issue is not present. Edit to match your edit: "The book suggests editors prioritize emotion over the pure technicalities of editing." This tot…

> The same footage can be viewed on another monitor and the tearing issue is not present.

This is what I was hoping someone would chime in about. I have never looked into whether it would be handled differently, but I would not trade a higher resolution display regardless. Maybe it could potentially influence where I cut in certain rare situations, but sounds unlikely.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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What is your actual use case apart from technology fetishism?

I can't speak for him, but for me? Straight integer scaling of 4k and 1440p. I loathe fractional scaling, and I cannot wait for the day that I can run an 8k display at > 90hz without compromise

I definitely can't afford an 8k monitor, but this is also the reason I'd want one for gaming. Realistically, you'll probably never run it at 4320p, but depending on how demanding the game is, you can choose between 2160p, 1440p or 1080p without weird scaling. With a 4k monitor your only option is to go all the way down to 1080p.

Manufacturers can also justify making pretty big screens with that many pixels. Samsung's 8k TVs are 80-something inches. Since it's that big, you can sit further back, making up for any loss in pixel density, and still have a huge picture.

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