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Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by bsder »

Aaargh20318 wrote: post #58
rektide wrote: post #19

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It's been pretty amazing how stagnant the monitor space is. I too am really craving an 8k@120 monitor, although there's a decent chance I'll balk at the price.

It’s crazy how much of a regression there was in resolution and picture quality when we went from CRT to LCD displays. In the late 90’s you could get a CRT that did 2048x1536 no sweat with great color and decent refresh rate. Then suddenly LCD displays became the standard and they looked awful. Low resolutions, terrible colors and bad viewing angles. The only real advantage they had was size. It took a decade or so t…

> The only real advantage they had was size.

And Moore's Law. LCDs are semiconductors so their price goes down by a factor of 2 every 18 months.

However, even size would be enough. CRTs were ridiculously heavy. My GDM-FW900 was almost 100 pounds. And I used two side by side. I had to shop specifically for a desk that wouldn't collapse when I put them on it.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by manderley »

Aaargh20318 wrote: post #62
hocuspocus wrote: post #57

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There are several scenarios where it clearly doesn't look that good, and where Windows objectively does a much better job. Most people (and companies) aren't willing to spend $1600 on Apple's 5K monitor, so they get a good 27" UHD monitor instead, and they soon realize macOS either gives you pixel perfect rendering at a 2x scale factor which corresponds to a ridiculously small 1920x1080 viewport, or a blurry 2560x144…

The 2560x1440 equivalent looks tack sharp on macOS. It renders at 5120x2880 and scales it down to native, as I said it’s effectively supersampling. I used this for years and never experienced a blurry image. I now run a 5k2k monitor, also at a fractional scale and again it looks excellent.

It very obviously is blurry, though. There's a reason so many people notice this issue, you're not going to be able to explain it away.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by extr »

diziet wrote: post #105

I think there are three groups of people with opinions regarding 120Hz vs 60Hz refresh rate. Group 1 can tell the difference between the two and strongly prefers 120Hz. Group 2 can't tell the difference between the two and prefers the more affordable options. Group 3 has not done a lot of comparisons between the two refresh rates, or has used 120Hz displays that were actually in 60Hz mode, or compared lower resolutio…

Yes, I went ahead and got a 4K 120hz monitor even though my use-case is coding, because it was so jarring switching between my M1 ProMotion display and my main monitor. Just scrolling/cursor movement is so much smoother, 60hz vs 120hz now feels like what 30hz vs 60hz used to feel like.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by [deleted] »

j45 wrote: post #123

I find a 2Kish (2560x1440or1600) resolution on a 24-27" Monitor to be the most usable for text. I understand things like fonts render smoother on a 4-6-8K monitor but it also draws more power usually to power all those pixels. The use of a Chroma 4:4:4 capable 4K tv is also often really helpful because one 4K screen at large enough size gives four 1920x1080 working surfaces. 4K seems to become useful at 38" Or so in…

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Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by ilyt »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #100
Matheus28 wrote: post #3

Slightly off topic but I can’t wait until there’s a 120 Hz 8K monitor. It’s the only thing holding me back from upgrading from 4K. I wonder if the current limitation is on the panels, cable bandwidth or absurd price tag…

8K is four times the pixels and therefore four times the bandwidth as a 4K monitor. It took us a long time to go from 1080p to 4K. It has taken even longer for 4K at 120-144Hz to be practical. It’s more likely that you’ll end up with intermediate steps to 5K, 6K, than getting 8K 120Hz. The other limitation is lack of demand. You need a gigantic monitor for 8K to be worth it, and you need a powerful video card to driv…

Which makes me wonder what's the point of the article's author, 4k vs 6k on 32 inch one is already far into diminishing returns, 8k on 32 inch is just numbers for numbers sake

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by encodedrose »

diziet wrote: post #105

I think there are three groups of people with opinions regarding 120Hz vs 60Hz refresh rate. Group 1 can tell the difference between the two and strongly prefers 120Hz. Group 2 can't tell the difference between the two and prefers the more affordable options. Group 3 has not done a lot of comparisons between the two refresh rates, or has used 120Hz displays that were actually in 60Hz mode, or compared lower resolutio…

Is there a Group 4: Can tell the difference between 120Hz and 240Hz?

I use the 32" Odyssey G7 which is 2560x1440@240Hz.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by ilyt »

practice9 wrote: post #80
Lio wrote: post #51

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I guess you could look at the use-cases for 120Hz displays on MacBook Pros. It's useful for smoother scrolling amongst other things. I'd like a display that has parity to my laptop but is just bigger so I can fit more on it.

MBP's 120hz display is a lifesaver for me. Previously, I actually often felt motion sickness when scrolling through code on small 60hz laptop screens. Had no problems with larger (> 23") desktop screens, though.

Smooth scrolling does that to me, scrolling where screen just jumps a bunch of lines at once doesn't bother me

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by 111111IIIIIII »

j45 wrote: post #125
111111IIIIIII wrote: post #85

I just purchased 2 of the 6Ks and I am keeping both. AMA. I do not understand the complaints about pixel density. The display is 223 ppi, which is the same or slightly higher than Apple displays. I am using them in a dual display configuration with an M1 Macbook Pro via TB4 and a Windows PC with an RTX 4090 via DisplayPort. The KVM feature makes switching back and forth a breeze. I am using 175% scaling (in Windows)…

I have 3 24" Benq 2K video grade monitors running at 2560x1440 giving me nearly 11 million usable pixels. It has a huge boost in productivity for me. 4K TVs only seem to become usably readable with Chroma 4:4:4 at 38" or above, ideally curved, to get 4 usable 1920x1080 quadrants. When the screen sizes go smaller, absolutely detail and quality increases, but for software development or text centric work is concerned,…

32" displays are a sweet spot in size for me as long as the pixel density is >200 ppi, but more for graphics applications than text editors. For 3D applications especially, it's very beneficial to have a lot of area on one screen since the GUI default layouts tend to fit best on 16:9 screens or close to that and larger screens give you larger multi-viewport layouts. 24 inch displays just couldn't come close here. 32" allows me to work in a 4 viewport layout all day long. It's also nice in IDEs, but my main purpose is various graphics applications. And sure I could fiddle endlessly with multi-display layouts but that's such a time suck and every application is completely different so I wouldn't bother no matter what my screen size is.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by boyter »

Aeolun wrote: post #126
boyter wrote: post #114

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I thought I was in 2... till I actually got a 120Hz screen. Since I flip between my desktop at 120Hz and Macbook Air M1 at 60Hz frequently I discovered I really notice. Its always so much nicer when I leave the Air. Everything is so much smoother.

Same difference between 30 and 60hz I imagine. Feels like you go from mega choppy to smooth as butter.

I get used to 60 pretty quickly, but I really notice it when I move back.
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