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Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by bloggie »

smolder wrote: post #25
Matheus28 wrote: post #3

Slightly off topic but I can’t wait until there’s a 120 Hz 8K monitor. It’s the only thing holding me back from upgrading from 4K. I wonder if the current limitation is on the panels, cable bandwidth or absurd price tag…

What is your actual use case apart from technology fetishism?

In CAD/EDM tools higher resolution means more productivity, (to a point) as you can fit more useful information on the screen at a time - you can “zoom out” more and still keep a useful level of detail. Especially useful in schematic and pcb design where dense areas of interest can be spatially disparate. I don’t like large screens and currently use 24” 4k screens which seem to be either unavailable or expensive, they were ~$350 in 2015 and don’t seem to have any equivalent nowadays.

The 120 Hz i don’t understand however i am not a gamer.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by petepete »

bloggie wrote: post #91
smolder wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is your actual use case apart from technology fetishism?

In CAD/EDM tools higher resolution means more productivity, (to a point) as you can fit more useful information on the screen at a time - you can “zoom out” more and still keep a useful level of detail. Especially useful in schematic and pcb design where dense areas of interest can be spatially disparate. I don’t like large screens and currently use 24” 4k screens which seem to be either unavailable or expensive, the…

Once you try a high refresh rate monitor, even for work, you just don't want to go back. Every movement and animation is buttery smooth.

Try setting your refresh rate to 30hz for an hour.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by addisonl »

howinteresting wrote: post #35
api wrote: post #24

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Gamers do. For coding I prefer high contrast and clarity. I’m disappointed there haven’t been any huge genuine OLED screens. MicroLED could be nice too.

Right, and most people buying high-end monitors are gamers.

Interesting, I’d assume it’s professionals in the video/photography/production space spending the serious money on high end displays. Where are you getting your data?

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by adolph »

ethbr0 wrote: post #52
smolder wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is your actual use case apart from technology fetishism?

Perhaps parent is a gun shrimp or pigeon. I try not to be overly sapien-centric when making assumptions about my fellow HN readers.

An interesting part of the recent book An Immense World was its coverage of how mantis shrimp likely don't use photoreceptors like human's do.

Marshall now thinks that the mantis shrimp sees colors in a unique way. Rather than discriminating between millions of subtle shades, its eye actually does the opposite, collapsing all the varied hues of the spectrum into just 12.

From Science: "A Different Form of Color Vision in Mantis Shrimp"

The mantis shrimps (stomatopods) can have up to 12 photoreceptors, far more than needed for even extreme color acuity. Thoen et al. conducted paired color discrimination tests with stomatopods and found that their ability to discriminate among colors was surprisingly low. Instead, stomatopods appear to use a color identification approach that results from a temporal scan of an object across the 12 photoreceptor sensitivities. This entirely unique form of vision would allow for extremely rapid color recognition without the need to discriminate between wavelengths within a spectrum.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by ajolly »

petepete wrote: post #92
bloggie wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In CAD/EDM tools higher resolution means more productivity, (to a point) as you can fit more useful information on the screen at a time - you can “zoom out” more and still keep a useful level of detail. Especially useful in schematic and pcb design where dense areas of interest can be spatially disparate. I don’t like large screens and currently use 24” 4k screens which seem to be either unavailable or expensive, the…

Once you try a high refresh rate monitor, even for work, you just don't want to go back. Every movement and animation is buttery smooth. Try setting your refresh rate to 30hz for an hour.

Agreed. I have a number of 4K 144 Hertz monitors, I'd like a 6 or 8K monitor but until they have it in high refresh create I'm not switching. I'm not much of a gamer, but when I do occasionally game it is significantly more fluid as well.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by ajolly »

buildbot wrote: post #67
nordsieck wrote: post #47

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> It's venturing into cryptocurrency-space-heater levels of pointless number crunching to render at that level of detail for anyone who has human eyes. Depends on your monitor size. Might be a waste at 27", but if you want to use a 48" display, I can assure you that you'd notice the move from 4k -> 8k.

Yeah, even driving the display at 4K, you start to notice the higher pixel fill factor for 8K displays above 48in. I love my 65in 8K Q900 - even though it mostly lives at 4k (120hz!).

Can you explain this a bit more, I tried googling but I can't quite understand what you mean here by pixel fill factor and how it would differ between the resolutions?

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by dizhn »

petepete wrote: post #92
bloggie wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In CAD/EDM tools higher resolution means more productivity, (to a point) as you can fit more useful information on the screen at a time - you can “zoom out” more and still keep a useful level of detail. Especially useful in schematic and pcb design where dense areas of interest can be spatially disparate. I don’t like large screens and currently use 24” 4k screens which seem to be either unavailable or expensive, the…

Once you try a high refresh rate monitor, even for work, you just don't want to go back. Every movement and animation is buttery smooth. Try setting your refresh rate to 30hz for an hour.

I have 60, 144 and 165hz displays. I have to say I don't really see much of a difference. Around 30 hz yes. But not over 60. It's probably some sort of genetic vision difference thing.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by Retric »

petepete wrote: post #92
bloggie wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In CAD/EDM tools higher resolution means more productivity, (to a point) as you can fit more useful information on the screen at a time - you can “zoom out” more and still keep a useful level of detail. Especially useful in schematic and pcb design where dense areas of interest can be spatially disparate. I don’t like large screens and currently use 24” 4k screens which seem to be either unavailable or expensive, the…

Once you try a high refresh rate monitor, even for work, you just don't want to go back. Every movement and animation is buttery smooth. Try setting your refresh rate to 30hz for an hour.

People say this, but I’ve had people fail double blind tests for 120hz vs 90hz vs 60hz. I’ve yet to find anyone that can reliably tell 144hz vs 120hz.

What people mostly notice is latency not refresh rate.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by PragmaticPulp »

Matheus28 wrote: post #3

Slightly off topic but I can’t wait until there’s a 120 Hz 8K monitor. It’s the only thing holding me back from upgrading from 4K. I wonder if the current limitation is on the panels, cable bandwidth or absurd price tag…

8K is four times the pixels and therefore four times the bandwidth as a 4K monitor.

It took us a long time to go from 1080p to 4K. It has taken even longer for 4K at 120-144Hz to be practical.

It’s more likely that you’ll end up with intermediate steps to 5K, 6K, than getting 8K 120Hz.

The other limitation is lack of demand. You need a gigantic monitor for 8K to be worth it, and you need a powerful video card to drive it. The number of people who would buy such a monitor is very, very small.

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