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Slightly off topic but I can’t wait until there’s a 120 Hz 8K monitor. It’s the only thing holding me back from upgrading from 4K. I wonder if the current limitation is on the panels, cable bandwidth or absurd price tag…
8k@120Hz is going to need one heck of a video card
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It’s effectively supersampling. The resulting image looks excellent.
There are several scenarios where it clearly doesn't look that good, and where Windows objectively does a much better job. Most people (and companies) aren't willing to spend $1600 on Apple's 5K monitor, so they get a good 27" UHD monitor instead, and they soon realize macOS either gives you pixel perfect rendering at a 2x scale factor which corresponds to a ridiculously small 1920x1080 viewport, or a blurry 2560x144…
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Not for tmux + firefox
Unless people are far more sensitive than I am, I don't see how >60Hz is needed for a desktop workstation environment. High frame rate is really only noticeable for very fast reaction time gaming. 4K 120Hz may be noticeable if editing ultra high frame rate video on a video editing workstation, but if you are a video production crew with a camera capable of recording at that framerate, you probably already know that.
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Not for tmux + firefox
Unless people are far more sensitive than I am, I don't see how >60Hz is needed for a desktop workstation environment. High frame rate is really only noticeable for very fast reaction time gaming. 4K 120Hz may be noticeable if editing ultra high frame rate video on a video editing workstation, but if you are a video production crew with a camera capable of recording at that framerate, you probably already know that.
But for desktop productivity? I don't feel I gain anything from it. 60 hz is fine.
Although I haven’t used these monitors, my experience with high dpi on windows and Linux has been a nightmare compared to OSX. It’s surprising me the non Mac world hasn’t made this a bigger priority.
I'm actually not sure what your complaint is at this point. I've long been using 3 mixed dpi displays on windows 10 for gaming as well as normal desktop stuff. Any relatively modern software scales fine to high dpi. Some old software using old APIs has to be upscaled by the OS and is blurry, but that's stuff like... Winamp.
Just give me a 2K monitor that turns on instantly, doesn’t hunt for sources, consumes less than 20W of power and I’ll be a happy guy. Bonus for having physical buttons to select explicit input sources without delays.
I would say that less than 30W might be a more realistic goal[0]. Maybe lower end monitors consume less power than these... I'm not sure. Also, it just seems strange that anyone is asking for a 1080p monitor in 2023 outside of Esports. Are you sure you want 1080p (2K) and not 1440p (2.5K)? It bothers me when people use 2K to refer to 1440p. 1080p is 2K[1]. [0]: this chart has a few recent monitors and gives a general…
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It's venturing into cryptocurrency-space-heater levels of pointless number crunching to render at that level of detail for anyone who has human eyes.
> It's venturing into cryptocurrency-space-heater levels of pointless number crunching to render at that level of detail for anyone who has human eyes. Depends on your monitor size. Might be a waste at 27", but if you want to use a 48" display, I can assure you that you'd notice the move from 4k -> 8k.
Why is it that pretty much all displays in the PC world have such dismal pixel densities (< 226 ppi)? It would be nice to be able to shop for a new desktop display without having to give up Retina in macOS.
I'm on a 4K 27" monitor. That's a PPI of 163. I don't feel it's dismal, and I sit relatively close to my monitor.
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macOS will render at the next highest integer scale factor and then downscale to fit the resolution of your monitor instead of just rendering at the fractional scale in the first place
It’s effectively supersampling. The resulting image looks excellent.
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I would say that less than 30W might be a more realistic goal[0]. Maybe lower end monitors consume less power than these... I'm not sure. Also, it just seems strange that anyone is asking for a 1080p monitor in 2023 outside of Esports. Are you sure you want 1080p (2K) and not 1440p (2.5K)? It bothers me when people use 2K to refer to 1440p. 1080p is 2K[1]. [0]: this chart has a few recent monitors and gives a general…
Yeh, I meant 1440p. 16:10. Was not aware these were referred to as 2.5k, thanks! I actually have a 32” one so no scaling is required and I think it only takes about 30W so it doesn’t feel like I’m sitting in front of a heater in summer. Honestly, anything below 50W is fine. My biggest gripe really is that it takes 7 seconds to turn on.
Certainly, one of the most impressive things about the M1 laptops when they came out was that they woke instantly from sleep, including the screen.