Great review. Are you returning the monitor? Also, have you kept the Kinesis 360 keyboard and did you get used to the plam pads? Personally, I'm using the palm pads of the Advantage 2.
Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?
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Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
I actually think Windows does it better than OS X (and Gnome, Wayland, and anything that does not support true fractional scaling). OS X just scales the entire surface and as result it always look blurry.
> OS X just scales the entire surface and as result it always look blurry. I genuinely have zero idea what you are talking about. Typing this from my macbook connected to a 5k LG ultrawide monitor, and it is as crystal sharp as it can get. As opposed to my windows 10 desktop (connected to the same monitor) having some occasional application windows render fairly blurry and inconsistently (one of the main offenders of…
macOS will render at the next highest integer scale factor and then downscale to fit the resolution of your monitor instead of just rendering at the fractional scale in the first place
Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?
#33Although I haven’t used these monitors, my experience with high dpi on windows and Linux has been a nightmare compared to OSX. It’s surprising me the non Mac world hasn’t made this a bigger priority.
Modern Linux DPI support is a nightmare. It's a shame, since if you just run and old-school software stack (X11; minimal window manager; xrandr to adjust DPI if you hotplug a monitor), then it has much nicer font rendering than Mac OS.
This is particularly frustrating since I've been using high DPI displays since the CRT days. Everything horribly regressed about a decade ago, and still isn't back to 1999 standards.
Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
I actually think Windows does it better than OS X (and Gnome, Wayland, and anything that does not support true fractional scaling). OS X just scales the entire surface and as result it always look blurry.
> OS X just scales the entire surface and as result it always look blurry. I genuinely have zero idea what you are talking about. Typing this from my macbook connected to a 5k LG ultrawide monitor, and it is as crystal sharp as it can get. As opposed to my windows 10 desktop (connected to the same monitor) having some occasional application windows render fairly blurry and inconsistently (one of the main offenders of…
I had the LG 5k Ultra wide monitor and couldn't get used to it. I gave up and got the XDR display, expensive but worth it
Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most people buying high-end monitors prioritize high refresh rates over pixel densities.
Gamers do. For coding I prefer high contrast and clarity. I’m disappointed there haven’t been any huge genuine OLED screens. MicroLED could be nice too.
Right, and most people buying high-end monitors are gamers.
Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
> OS X just scales the entire surface and as result it always look blurry. I genuinely have zero idea what you are talking about. Typing this from my macbook connected to a 5k LG ultrawide monitor, and it is as crystal sharp as it can get. As opposed to my windows 10 desktop (connected to the same monitor) having some occasional application windows render fairly blurry and inconsistently (one of the main offenders of…
macOS will render at the next highest integer scale factor and then downscale to fit the resolution of your monitor instead of just rendering at the fractional scale in the first place
It’s effectively supersampling. The resulting image looks excellent.
Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?
#37Slightly off topic but I can’t wait until there’s a 120 Hz 8K monitor. It’s the only thing holding me back from upgrading from 4K. I wonder if the current limitation is on the panels, cable bandwidth or absurd price tag…
What is your actual use case apart from technology fetishism?
I can't speak for him, but for me? Straight integer scaling of 4k and 1440p. I loathe fractional scaling, and I cannot wait for the day that I can run an 8k display at > 90hz without compromise
Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?
#38The comments regarding matte vs glossy and text sharpness resonates with me. It’s really hard to use any non-Apple screens since their color is completely washed out and lifeless and text lacks crispness on all screens at a range of price points I’ve ever tried. What’s even more puzzling is how a large number of people online seem to adamantly defend widely sold lower-dpi 32” 4k matte screens as a superior product. I…
The M1 MacBook Pro 14" shipped with a GtG response time of 58.4ms. The U3224KB featured in this review has a GtG response time of 5ms in fast mode, which is considered average but not great. Most high-end monitors manage GtG response times of around 1ms. With OLED it's closer to 0.5ms. 58.4ms is unacceptably bad.
Sure, they are not fast response gaming screens, but I am specifically calling out reading all forms of text (web/email/documents/coding) as a main use case.
OLED would be great if we could finally get 27” 5K. Currently all the gaming screens sit at around 1440p pixel density and are often coupled with non RGB pixel layout that causes color fringing on text: https://pcmonitors.info/articles/qd-oled-and-woled-fringing-...
Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?
#39Just give me a 2K monitor that turns on instantly, doesn’t hunt for sources, consumes less than 20W of power and I’ll be a happy guy. Bonus for having physical buttons to select explicit input sources without delays.
I would say that less than 30W might be a more realistic goal[0]. Maybe lower end monitors consume less power than these... I'm not sure.
Also, it just seems strange that anyone is asking for a 1080p monitor in 2023 outside of Esports. Are you sure you want 1080p (2K) and not 1440p (2.5K)? It bothers me when people use 2K to refer to 1440p. 1080p is 2K[1].
[0]: this chart has a few recent monitors and gives a general idea of how much power monitors consume: https://youtu.be/Wik4DhEaj_8?t=527
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K_resolution is very clear on this subject, and I agree completely. 1080p is much closer to 2000 horizontal pixels than 1440p.
Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?
#40Slightly off topic but I can’t wait until there’s a 120 Hz 8K monitor. It’s the only thing holding me back from upgrading from 4K. I wonder if the current limitation is on the panels, cable bandwidth or absurd price tag…
Absolutely. Mediocre resolution increases has been one of many disappointments for me when it comes to technology over the past 20 years. We had CRT monitors with better resolution than 1080p back in the late 90's early 2000's before LCD panels saddled us with 1080p resolution for 15 years. 4k is the bare minimum that should be available right now. I can't wait until I can have a 16k monitor at about 3'x5-6' on my desk. Maybe it will happen in my lifetime, but I'm not holding my breath.