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Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Why is it that pretty much all displays in the PC world have such dismal pixel densities (< 226 ppi)? It would be nice to be able to shop for a new desktop display without having to give up Retina in macOS.

Most people buying high-end monitors prioritize high refresh rates over pixel densities.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Although I haven’t used these monitors, my experience with high dpi on windows and Linux has been a nightmare compared to OSX. It’s surprising me the non Mac world hasn’t made this a bigger priority.

I actually think Windows does it better than OS X (and Gnome, Wayland, and anything that does not support true fractional scaling). OS X just scales the entire surface and as result it always look blurry.

> OS X just scales the entire surface and as result it always look blurry.

I genuinely have zero idea what you are talking about. Typing this from my macbook connected to a 5k LG ultrawide monitor, and it is as crystal sharp as it can get. As opposed to my windows 10 desktop (connected to the same monitor) having some occasional application windows render fairly blurry and inconsistently (one of the main offenders of this is, ironically, task manager). And don't even get me started on font rendering in general.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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The comments regarding matte vs glossy and text sharpness resonates with me. It’s really hard to use any non-Apple screens since their color is completely washed out and lifeless and text lacks crispness on all screens at a range of price points I’ve ever tried. What’s even more puzzling is how a large number of people online seem to adamantly defend widely sold lower-dpi 32” 4k matte screens as a superior product. I…

The M1 MacBook Pro 14" shipped with a GtG response time of 58.4ms.

The U3224KB featured in this review has a GtG response time of 5ms in fast mode, which is considered average but not great. Most high-end monitors manage GtG response times of around 1ms. With OLED it's closer to 0.5ms.

58.4ms is unacceptably bad.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Why is it that pretty much all displays in the PC world have such dismal pixel densities (< 226 ppi)? It would be nice to be able to shop for a new desktop display without having to give up Retina in macOS.

Most people buying high-end monitors prioritize high refresh rates over pixel densities.

Gamers do. For coding I prefer high contrast and clarity. I’m disappointed there haven’t been any huge genuine OLED screens. MicroLED could be nice too.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Slightly off topic but I can’t wait until there’s a 120 Hz 8K monitor. It’s the only thing holding me back from upgrading from 4K. I wonder if the current limitation is on the panels, cable bandwidth or absurd price tag…

What is your actual use case apart from technology fetishism?

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Not for tmux + firefox

Unless people are far more sensitive than I am, I don't see how >60Hz is needed for a desktop workstation environment. High frame rate is really only noticeable for very fast reaction time gaming. 4K 120Hz may be noticeable if editing ultra high frame rate video on a video editing workstation, but if you are a video production crew with a camera capable of recording at that framerate, you probably already know that.

I can immediately tell just from moving the mouse a little. I wouldn't say it's needed either though.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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post #8

The comments regarding matte vs glossy and text sharpness resonates with me. It’s really hard to use any non-Apple screens since their color is completely washed out and lifeless and text lacks crispness on all screens at a range of price points I’ve ever tried. What’s even more puzzling is how a large number of people online seem to adamantly defend widely sold lower-dpi 32” 4k matte screens as a superior product. I…

> somehow 200 dpi+ desktop screens is still an extremely niche product.

Resolution and color accuracy are subject to diminishing returns.

I could be wearing my glasses right now. They're not a strong correction, but I could see slightly better. In fact, they're within arm's reach. Meh.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually think Windows does it better than OS X (and Gnome, Wayland, and anything that does not support true fractional scaling). OS X just scales the entire surface and as result it always look blurry.

> OS X just scales the entire surface and as result it always look blurry. I genuinely have zero idea what you are talking about. Typing this from my macbook connected to a 5k LG ultrawide monitor, and it is as crystal sharp as it can get. As opposed to my windows 10 desktop (connected to the same monitor) having some occasional application windows render fairly blurry and inconsistently (one of the main offenders of…

Surprisingly, macs can’t actually scale the UI like Windows. All you can do is simulate higher or lower resolutions. Which is fine if your DPI is sky-high, but a real pain in the arse if you’re working with a QHD 24”for example, and just want everything to be a bit bigger

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Slightly off topic but I can’t wait until there’s a 120 Hz 8K monitor. It’s the only thing holding me back from upgrading from 4K. I wonder if the current limitation is on the panels, cable bandwidth or absurd price tag…

8k@120Hz is going to need one heck of a video card

It's venturing into cryptocurrency-space-heater levels of pointless number crunching to render at that level of detail for anyone who has human eyes.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless people are far more sensitive than I am, I don't see how >60Hz is needed for a desktop workstation environment. High frame rate is really only noticeable for very fast reaction time gaming. 4K 120Hz may be noticeable if editing ultra high frame rate video on a video editing workstation, but if you are a video production crew with a camera capable of recording at that framerate, you probably already know that.

Many people are more sensitive than you are. I can easily tell the difference between 60 and 120 on both my phone and my desktop. Though response times also matter a lot for ghosting and such.

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