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Goodreads was the future of book reviews, then Amazon bought it

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Re: Goodreads was the future of book reviews, then Amazon bought it

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I’d love to move off of Goodreads but their export function is pitiful, to the point that I’d say it’s deliberately hobbled.

All I do is mark books 1-5 stars and record the date I read it. I recently tried to export to StoryGraph and 1/3 of my books were missing finished dates.

If youre owned by Amazon and can’t put a date in a CSV I suspect malicious intent over incompetence.

Re: Goodreads was the future of book reviews, then Amazon bought it

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Goodreads wasn't "the future of book reviews", it was a good review site that might have innovated great new things or might not have at all. But regardless, Amazon should never have been allowed to acquire it -- it was incredibly anti-competitive. Amazon never wanted to do anything with Goodreads at all -- as demonstrated by the fact that it hasn't done anything. It was a purely defensive move to prevent anyone else…

"should never have been allowed to acquire it?" It's very funny the way you put it. Already government has too much power and you want further they take over the economy and do pulls and pushes.

Free market means, freely allowing people to trade using persuasions — not government using its coercion. People also often forget other side of the picture.

1. Why don't they attack smaller companies who are ready to sell their companies to Amazon or Microsoft. 2. Why don't they ask government to put people in jail who are buying products from Amazon and making Amazon big?

Recently EU also making plans to regulate the battery replacement. I covered that here briefly in my site political-ledger dot com

Re: Goodreads was the future of book reviews, then Amazon bought it

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100% it's cultural. In the Netherlands, companies brag about a 7 or 8 out of ten as proof of their amazing customer service. When I lived in America, it seemed the consensus of anything under a 9 is killing puppies. Coincidentally, NPS is entirely based on this fact. 8+ is required for a "happy customer". 7 is given a little wiggle room to win them back and under 6 is a lost cause.

> In the Netherlands, companies brag about a 7 or 8 out of ten as proof of their amazing customer service. Huh, could you give an example of it? I am new to the Netherlands and hadn’t realized this yet.

How we rate things in the Netherlands is a reflection of the rating system used in schools.

1-5. Ranging from pathetic to inadequate, in any case you didn't pass.

6. Adequate, the minimum needed to pass. A culturally important number as it expresses the "zesjescultuur", a phenomenon where somebody is intentionally doing the absolute bare minimum to not get into trouble.

7. More than adequate.

8. Good. Even if near-perfect, few Dutch people would rate above this number because we don't want you to get all cocky.

9. Excellent. In service, only awarded when you did something completely unexpected or memorable.

10. Perfect, flawless.

Re: Goodreads was the future of book reviews, then Amazon bought it

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Goodreads wasn't "the future of book reviews", it was a good review site that might have innovated great new things or might not have at all. But regardless, Amazon should never have been allowed to acquire it -- it was incredibly anti-competitive. Amazon never wanted to do anything with Goodreads at all -- as demonstrated by the fact that it hasn't done anything. It was a purely defensive move to prevent anyone else…

"should never have been allowed to acquire it?" It's very funny the way you put it. Already government has too much power and you want further they take over the economy and do pulls and pushes. Free market means, freely allowing people to trade using persuasions — not government using its coercion. People also often forget other side of the picture. 1. Why don't they attack smaller companies who are ready to sell th…

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Re: Goodreads was the future of book reviews, then Amazon bought it

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> I believe businesses would just lie and say they are going to be part of the business but then just bury them anyway. That's where my pet antitrust solution succeeds where others fail: ban all M&A. Companies only engage in mergers to consolidate market share, but their market share consolidation (i.e. monopolization) not only decreases competition, but also comes at the expense of employees and customers of the acq…

Company A is 6 days away from going out of business. They will shut their doors. All employees will lose their jobs. All customers will lose access to whatever Company A does that they find helpful. But then Company B agrees to buy them for $1 so that they continue running. Pays the employees, and continues running the service for customers. Ban it?

This example sounds nice on paper, but has anything even remotely similar ever happened, within living memory? I have my doubts.

So while possible in theory, if it's impossible to happen in practice, it's not a valid counterargument to a practical proposal.

Re: Goodreads was the future of book reviews, then Amazon bought it

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Why? The FTC has shown time and again it has no interest in enforcing the rules, whether that's under Pai, Khan, or going back every administration since the Microsoft anti-competition days.

In general historically I'd agree with you but the FTC under Khan has been prolific, not to mention there was recently news that they specifically are going to target Amazon for a large antitrust case and Khan wrote what is considered her most important paper specifically on Amazon. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-29/amazon-ma... https://www.yalelawjournal.org/pdf/e.710.Khan.805_zuvfyyeh.p...

Prolific in what, though? Actual fines instead of peanuts? Preventing mergers of companies that at the federal level don't lead to monopolies, but at every local level do? It speaks volumes to how little power the FTC has in the modern day if it still doesn't have enough on Amazon to have forced them into reform on Khan's first day in office. Their business practice isn't exactly a secret.

It's not that they haven't gotten better, but "better" and "what they should be" are very different things. One only hopefully leads to the other.

Re: Goodreads was the future of book reviews, then Amazon bought it

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> By joining Amazon, Goodreads has accelerated their mission to delight customers with the help of Amazon’s resources and technology. Seriously, reading the diarrhea vomited out by corporate PR shills nowadays seriously makes my teeth hurt. Do those people actually believe the bullshit they're spouting to the general public?

I've found that "delight customers" is the key phrase. Just write a script that excludes any articles which mentions that phrase for a better life. That's been a pretty reliable indicator over the last decade.

Greetings, fellow customer!

Re: Goodreads was the future of book reviews, then Amazon bought it

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It’s been 10 years since Amazon bought it. Maybe it’s time for alternatives to go online.

As others have pointed out, alternatives do exist. They just lack the network effect. I've recently moved to Bookwyrm. I was able to move import my Goodreads list, although many books were missing. Any new books i'm reading, go on Bookwyrm first. I had to add the ISBN details etc. for some. It's a bit of work initially, but atleast i feel my contribution is going to a non-walled garden. ---- https://joinbookwyrm.com/…

Beware that Bookwyrm is neither Open Source (as per OSI definition) nor Free Software (per FSF definition). It is legally impossible for a lot of people to deploy it, I think it even include myself (I am employed by a company, does it counts as "laboring for myself" in my country?)
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