I can tolerate different viewpoints on branch names and codes of conduct, but this is just an unhinged way to respond. I feel bad for everyone who has contributed to Nim and now has to live with this stain on their project
Nim Succession Plan
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#12Everyone fighting in a master/main flame war, and here I am using main, just because it's quicker to type lol
One of my projects switched to "stable" since "master", "main" and "trunk" all seemed to have different meanings for different projects.
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#13nim with a bureaucracy would quickly turn into rust, so corporate heads can just adopt rust and let the world of niche opinionated tools be themselves.
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#14Big trap of internet posting: your worst day's post can become a defining statement. Clearly on the day Andreas posted this, he wasn't at his kindest. Nim's great and readable, the code will survive many such days I think.
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#15Big trap of internet posting: your worst day's post can become a defining statement. Clearly on the day Andreas posted this, he wasn't at his kindest. Nim's great and readable, the code will survive many such days I think.
...just for the record still, I am older than 50, but changing "master" to "trunk" has been a no-brainer...
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#16I've been really interested in Nim. Not doing anything serious with it yet but I've been following the project and reading about it and looking for a way to somehow use it in my personal or professional work. This response from Andreas Rumpf, the designer and BDFL, instantly killed my interest. I cannot unsee and ignore what I just read. ( https://imgur.com/a/aGLOkfl ) However technically interesting/beautiful this l…
I just can’t understand someone who turns a relatively benign question into a political position rant. It literally makes no sense unless he has mental health issues.
Just look at what happened with the Rust foundation. It probably guides a lot of his rant.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
I just can’t understand someone who turns a relatively benign question into a political position rant. It literally makes no sense unless he has mental health issues.
Just look at what happened with the Rust foundation. It probably guides a lot of his rant.
That does not follow. Languages as large and successful as Python and as small and up-and-coming as Zig have had foundations for years, despite both having a primary lead developer and tastemaker.
This rant really does come off as an embittered “I refuse to leave my project for future generations because I hate them.”
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#18nim with a bureaucracy would quickly turn into rust, so corporate heads can just adopt rust and let the world of niche opinionated tools be themselves.
Meanwhile on something really worth reporting: "one thing I want to say again: fantastic work on all the bugfixing that has happened of late - the new 1.6 branch is awesome" https://discord.com/channels/371759389889003530/768367394547...
and this is a project lead whose company has chosen to trust nim and written an ethereum client in it. Nothing is unopionated in this world, everyone makes their choices. And Status.im choices seem to have worked out.
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#19I can tolerate different viewpoints on branch names and codes of conduct, but this is just an unhinged way to respond. I feel bad for everyone who has contributed to Nim and now has to live with this stain on their project
As a contributor thanks for your worry but next time keep your virtue to yourself. I read his response multiple times and don't find anything wrong with it. Just an opinion. Worths as much as mine or yours.
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#20It's not easy to sincerely empathize with the problems of other people, especially when you think these problems are very distant to your day to day life.
In the current world, permeated by negative information, it is often hard to feel emotionally connected to everything that's happening. This situation becomes particularly problematic for highly focused, technically-inclined individuals who are engulfed by their work, mostly devoid (even if it's just their perception) of social component. To them, the amount of general attention paid to some specific societal issues might seem insincere. Unfortunately, they can often also find the supportive evidence for their point of view, as there are enough people whose public persona is obviously crafted with a focus on virtue signaling. Moreover, this often gets exacerbated further if one highly values critical thinking, as maintaining a balance between being critical of the status quo and simply being contrarian or edgy requires a great deal of wisdom.
The internet certainly creates an illusion of a global culture, which is only partially true. There's still a lot of cultural rifts between different people that can only be overcome through tolerance, openness and the willingness to take an extra step in connecting with each other.
Don't rush to label people as toxic unless they are obviously being dicks to others. Some are naturally grumpy or may simply be having a bad day (or a couple of years).