My 14yr old daughter sent me this screenshot the other day with the comment "I think that one sentence sums up twitter pretty well". https://capture.dropbox.com/GqgTAxRimqAXzrdo
I see a giant circle around like 10 sentences, none of which feel like the sum up twitter in any way? After some consideration I guess maybe you're referring to "What's happening?"
Twitter Is DDOSing Itself
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>The people at Twitter who understood the system and could predict the side effects were all fired or left Not necessarily. I’ve predicted bad outcomes for decisions in a few cases and been ignored but stuck around regardless. Mostly because I like my job and the goals of my organization even if it makes bad decisions. Of course to remain productive and improve my influence in future decision making it is absolutely…
Tell me you're in your 4th year at a BigCo without telling me you're in your 4th year at a BigCo. The goals of the organization are mostly a facade. The people running the organization, and their actions, are what the goals of the organization actually are.
Obviously. Are you suggesting that one can’t appreciate those? Or that this is some secret? Maybe the communication in the orgs you’ve been with has been poor?
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What a fantastically bad take supported by no facts whatsoever. I like your graphics work but you should really think before you type this kind of a thing up.
Twitter went from a 4.9k headcount in Dec 2019, to 7.5k in Dec 2021. Fact. I don't care if you "like my graphics work" or not. You seem to be implying I owe you something, which is crazy. I have been publishing stuff online for decades and I can tell you, judgy and entitled people such as yourself have _never_ done anything useful in return. What's amazing is you chastizing me for a "bad post", even as you dispute so…
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What a fantastically bad take supported by no facts whatsoever. I like your graphics work but you should really think before you type this kind of a thing up.
Twitter went from a 4.9k headcount in Dec 2019, to 7.5k in Dec 2021. Fact. I don't care if you "like my graphics work" or not. You seem to be implying I owe you something, which is crazy. I have been publishing stuff online for decades and I can tell you, judgy and entitled people such as yourself have _never_ done anything useful in return. What's amazing is you chastizing me for a "bad post", even as you dispute so…
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1616706530841333761?s=46...
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You claim with a straight face that, had Musk not taken over Twitter, it would have had the same rate of outages and level of degradation as it does now? It's completely obvious to anyone familiar with the stability of Twitter pre and post Musk that his takeover was an inflection point. You're ignoring reality in order to support a claim that fired non-coders and "diversity hires" contributed nothing.
No, you claim that I am claiming that. What I claim is that: - OPs story that Twitter was a healthy and productive tech company pre-Elon is complete non-sense. How many years did people pine for an edit button? - Twitter returned to pre-2020 staffing levels, which is true - Twitter struggled to push out new features (like an edit button) for years, which is true, wheras post-Elon they pushed out edit buttons, longer…
Claiming that nothing is different other than Elon's presence implies that Twitter was just as much of a technical dumpster fire as it is now. That is not _at all_ what you're now claiming you said, which is, effectively, "Twitter made slow progress on product priorities". No one disputes that, but it's not what we're discussing here, which is the rapid degradation of service since Musk took over. Maybe those "diversity hires", as you call them, actually contributed to keeping the site running.
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#956Here's a guy who understands what's REALLY going on: https://twitter.com/i/status/1675254646942896128
It's comical at this point.
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Applying the simplest shortest fix can sometimes be a good method to synchronize the state of the code with management. Instead of engineering trying to buffer and fix weird management decisions, this just exposes them.
From experience management really don't care about the state of the code or infrastructure. All they want to know is the soonest something can be done. Elon strikes me as worse because he likes to think he understands what his engineers know.
What I wanted to say is that if the state of the code is bad, it might make them care a bit more when their own state gets synchronized with that. Not necessarily about the code, but surely about the revenue and the looks.
Now, management being what it is, they of course will try to find a scapegoat. But that’s just part of the game and may be better than burning yourself out by trying to fix their nonsense.
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People didn’t leave because of the bad decisions. They left because Musk said he wanted “hardcore” people who’d work 80 hour weeks. Turns out masochism isn’t correlated with great engineering.
I think there may be a disconnect between what Musk says and the reality on the ground. Enough so that I, given such a situation, would wait around a little bit to see how things played out before jumping ship. But as I said in my original comment, I’ve sprinted away from toxicity before, and will do so again if it becomes obvious.
Which runs against every good piece of advice that has ever been uttered about leadership. Musk far overpaid for twitter because he wanted to be the center of attention and what better way to do that than to buy the network which gets the most attention from "important" people?
He then took the Michael Jordan trope of "I never asked anyone to do anything I was unwilling to do" and tried to turn that into reality by sleeping in his office every once in a while. The problem with this sentiment is that the only employees who are going to stick around long-term in such a ridiculous working arrangement are those who either can't find jobs elsewhere or are terrified that they won't be able to find jobs elsewhere.
So now you've got a highly toxic work environment full of people who are unconfident in their own abilities to get the work done, and Elon constantly pretend like he's some sort of business genius from the movies who just walks into a meeting, throws a bunch of turds on top of the agenda without having a firm grasp of anything, and storms off to light the next fire.
It's fucking insane.
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#959Earlier quoted context omitted.
>The people at Twitter who understood the system and could predict the side effects were all fired or left Not necessarily. I’ve predicted bad outcomes for decisions in a few cases and been ignored but stuck around regardless. Mostly because I like my job and the goals of my organization even if it makes bad decisions. Of course to remain productive and improve my influence in future decision making it is absolutely…
Tell me you're in your 4th year at a BigCo without telling me you're in your 4th year at a BigCo. The goals of the organization are mostly a facade. The people running the organization, and their actions, are what the goals of the organization actually are.
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> The two remaining sites that allow regular people to post and have discussions are being wiped off the internet in time for the next election. By the next US presidential election, there won't be ways to access information that don't go through the "wrong" people first. Hacker News is all that's left, and it's not big enough to be significant. The 2028 election is more worrying IMO, especially since it seems like M…
Elon Musk is not eligible to become president as he's not a "natural born citizen" to the USA.