I mean this in the nicest way possible, but this is one of the most frustrating things I've ever read, as well as many of the comments echoing the author. I do commend you for posting this publicly, that takes guts, but you have to do something about it. If I were your CEO, I'd insist you take a very long break, right now. You realize you're going to die, in the best case, 70 to 80 years from now, yeah? Likely much s…
Sad, Tired, and Alone: My Ongoing Battle With Startup Depression
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Re: Sad, Tired, and Alone: My Ongoing Battle With Startup Depression
#62I mean this in the nicest way possible, but this is one of the most frustrating things I've ever read, as well as many of the comments echoing the author. I do commend you for posting this publicly, that takes guts, but you have to do something about it. If I were your CEO, I'd insist you take a very long break, right now. You realize you're going to die, in the best case, 70 to 80 years from now, yeah? Likely much s…
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Here you've got a very young man describing decisions he has made in his life that are killing him, and your big solution is to pivot his business focus? Look, people get burnt out, it happens. When you spend 365 days a year spinning your brain at 100k RPM, every so often you need to let it cool down and recharge.
This isn't "quitting" it's called "pacing yourself." Christ. You act like the grandparent comment was saying never ever program or build a business again. He said take a year-long break.
Re: Sad, Tired, and Alone: My Ongoing Battle With Startup Depression
#63I mean this in the nicest way possible, but this is one of the most frustrating things I've ever read, as well as many of the comments echoing the author. I do commend you for posting this publicly, that takes guts, but you have to do something about it. If I were your CEO, I'd insist you take a very long break, right now. You realize you're going to die, in the best case, 70 to 80 years from now, yeah? Likely much s…
Re: Sad, Tired, and Alone: My Ongoing Battle With Startup Depression
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#65Let me state it clearly: it is extremely unlikely that your depression has anything to do with "startups" or your work life.
Quitting your job might be a good idea, but only insofar as it will free up time for you to focus on getting treatment. In and of itself, quitting your job won't solve your problem.
Paradoxically, the reason you're so miserable is likely tied to the fact that you love what you're doing so much, or put another way, that you're doing just what you want to be doing.
Get help. If you don't, you're never going to feel better even if everything goes perfectly in your professional life.
Re: Sad, Tired, and Alone: My Ongoing Battle With Startup Depression
#66Zak. Please listen to me. I suffer depression, but you know what has helped me immensely? Lifting HEAVY weights. Give it a try. Lift HEAVY weights for at least 4-5 days a week, and make it the absolute NUMBER ONE PRIORITY in your life for that month. Closely monitor how you feel, and how your mind thinks during that month. Try this ASAP Zak. It will IMPROVE YOUR LIFE. P.S. Sorry if I come off as a spazz. I just reall…
Re: Sad, Tired, and Alone: My Ongoing Battle With Startup Depression
#67I mean this in the nicest way possible, but this is one of the most frustrating things I've ever read, as well as many of the comments echoing the author. I do commend you for posting this publicly, that takes guts, but you have to do something about it. If I were your CEO, I'd insist you take a very long break, right now. You realize you're going to die, in the best case, 70 to 80 years from now, yeah? Likely much s…
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For example, have you forgotten DHH and Peldi? They've created some of the best software businesses, contributed huge amounts to the community and love "wasting time" on beaches.
I'm personally probably closer to the blog author's type, but racing sportscars definitely sounds more fun than the 10th pivot to me.
Re: Sad, Tired, and Alone: My Ongoing Battle With Startup Depression
#68This is the flip side to every multi million dollar exits of some social widget or TechCrunch rah rah bullshit or the stock buyouts of a collapsed firm.
This the reality in the tech game. Not everyone wins. I know this, I felt this, I felt the highs and lows.
But something isn't working. Many point out to trying too much, too hard, psychological, depression, so on so forth. These comments here ring a bit hollow because they dismiss what Zak already wrote. He is a smart cookie, he knows the sickness, he knows the cure. The only remedy is change. Not only change but be brave enough to also accept change. The metaphorical come-to-Jesus moment is nigh.
Then take five minutes and really think about this and see this for what it is. This post has been read over 9000 times--almost a third of all tech workers in the city of San Francisco--and rallied over 80 comments with people even arguing whether suggestions are mean sprited. Meaning: you are not alone.
Others get this, others empathize. Because we are the community that wakes up every morning and want it bad too. That in itself is pretty amazing.
What's the real solution? No one can give you that. It's going to be personal. You're a startup vet. Deep down you know what to do. Success is not a straight line, it's meandering, it's failures, it just is.
Cheers.
Re: Sad, Tired, and Alone: My Ongoing Battle With Startup Depression
#69Find a 30 or 40-day challenge, and start going every damn day. Even if it's the only thing you do in the day.
I'd suggest Bikram to kick your ass into forcing you to letting go. The routine + regular space you create for yourself + endorphines and healing it will allow your body do will change your mindset within 1 month's time.
This will create the space for you too, to do all of the little things that you felt like you couldn't get done.
Maybe I should connect with people by bringing other founders to yoga classes. I'd actually love connecting with people that way. I'm living in Kingston (Ontario) right now, though planning to travel the next 3-4 months looking for technical + other people who we have a good rapport with to join me.
Let me know if you're open for a visitor and to be dragged to some yoga. :)
Tip #2: Therapy can help a lot, not medication-based, but talk based. In my opinion medications poison your mind and lessen your overall potential (not forgetting the hit and miss with finding one that 'works' for you, and realizing newer studies show they're not really any better than placebo for most people). And you can reach the same level of flow in life with proper support and doing things every day to take care of yourself.
I've been seeing someone for over a year now, who's an Innerchild/Regression therapist - really just looking at how you react and feel in different situations and helping you release past things that you are suppressing and are holding you in a certain pattern. I'm unimaginably farther ahead in my self-awareness and balance than I was a year ago.
Tip #3: Upverter looks fantastic. I'm jealous at how far along you are with it. I'm at least a year away from reaching the same place you're at with your company, with having a team, and product at the same place (and that's with some luck!).
If you want some unsolicited design tips.. let me know. The tour I think would work better if you just put it all in a scrolly. I think you'd find you'll expose more people to all of the information (continuing to scroll is much easier than having to click around).
Happy to see a fellow Canadian sharing on HN!
I have a few more little design thoughts if you'd interested.
Otherwise, you're on track - just start yoga - and let me know if you want me to visit and drag you the first few times. It's nice to have expectations set by someone who's been doing it 4 1/2+ years, and I also did a 200-hour Hatha yoga teacher training in the summer.. so I'm a little qualified to offer yogic advice. :)
Re: Sad, Tired, and Alone: My Ongoing Battle With Startup Depression
#70I am not saying that this is the cure, but from my experience with depression I think that much of it is related to physical activity and general welfare. And a good diet (paleo works very well for me) and fitness can help a lot.
http://nerdfitness.com/blog/2012/02/23/a-newbies-guide-to-ne...