Bluesky is and will always be the only atproto using instance, because there's no open source involvement, running an instance is prohibitively hard and expensive. They run under the pretense of open standards, but are pretty much the only ones with the scale needed to run it.
I’m still surprised that Meta is planning on using ActivityPub instead of atproto
Meta will have a hard time doing Embrace Extend Extinguish on atproto.
ActivityPub however, this easily puts them in a dominant position. Meta can put more developers on ActivityPub today than the combined open source projects,all together. They will control AP, the same way Google controls the WHATWG
Aside: all these verge articles are getting tedious. Besides that there's already HN post yesterday that got into this I think (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36557378) these Verge articles collecting news from a tweet and spreading it into a 2 page article of "news" that then gets posted here like 12 hours after is lame. We don't need a whole article based on one breaking news thing that's there's not much more story to other than the blip that's occurring at the time. I think Verge's new plan/model of incorporating active news stories from whatever they see on social isn't really a value-add at this point. Just borderline clickbait "filler".
Status Page, currently showing "degraded performance": https://status.bsky.app/
Weird. It shows as fully operational to me. The degraded performance was resolved yesterday a few hours after it started thanks, at least in part, to Paul Frazee (@pfrazee.com).
you are right, i think it might have still been cached in my browser from yesterday
If Twitter did the same thing, would it be spun so positively?
Bluesky is an invite-only preview with fewer than 200K users, just started earlier this year. Twitter is a 17 year old service with more than 200M users. This comparison is not useful.
The comparison isn't about scalability. It's about spin.
I gotta say, I am disappointed so far at both bluesky amd mastodon. They both have interesting ideas to solve problems with technical means but mastodon wants to transfer a lot of problems to whoever runs the server and to the user and bluesky sounds like it might get popular a bit but I have yet to see something about it that makes regular people care about it. Both platforms are nice for people that care about elon…
> but mastodon wants to transfer a lot of problems to whoever runs the server and to the user I'm not quite sure what you are getting at here - could you unpack it a bit?
Moderation, hosting fees, legal liability, responsibility for accounts (people invest a lot of time in creating content tied to your instance), security,etc... it is federated but all the legal,security, infra,moderation,etc... people across the world that support twitter and the like are no longer there for your mastodon instance but the only thing there that scales down/up with respect to the number of active users is infra support staffing/costs. Everything else is "decentralized" but since it isn't a technical problem, much like most things foss, the responsibility is transfered to whomever runs a mastodon instance assuming they have taken all the neccesary steps to be responsible and reliable in every regard. But in reality, the user is expected to find out through trial and error and word of mouth, which instance is being operated properly. Matrix and other decentralized systems have the same problem.
I gotta say, I am disappointed so far at both bluesky amd mastodon. They both have interesting ideas to solve problems with technical means but mastodon wants to transfer a lot of problems to whoever runs the server and to the user and bluesky sounds like it might get popular a bit but I have yet to see something about it that makes regular people care about it. Both platforms are nice for people that care about elon…
Thoughts on custom feeds?
Not sure what that is. Like a news+activity feed? I think outsourcing recommendation engines to 3rd parties and letting users subscribe to the recommendation engine (which might include ads for incentive) of their choice would be neat. People want stuff recommended to them.
For example, I would want to subscribe to good news sources that are both global and US centric and any infosec related recommendation sources. Others might want content recommended to them if it is shared by people with creds/reputation in other platforms or if they are their friends. I can imagine a "friends and family" recommender that connects to all other social media and recommends events from their in one feed.
Bluesky is an invite-only preview with fewer than 200K users, just started earlier this year. Twitter is a 17 year old service with more than 200M users. This comparison is not useful.
The comparison isn't about scalability. It's about spin.
I know that. I can read. But why in the world should the two networks, of vastly different scale and maturity, be judged by the same standard?
Aside: all these verge articles are getting tedious. Besides that there's already HN post yesterday that got into this I think ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36557378 ) these Verge articles collecting news from a tweet and spreading it into a 2 page article of "news" that then gets posted here like 12 hours after is lame. We don't need a whole article based on one breaking news thing that's there's not much m…
The Verge is not submitting these articles to HN, upvoting them on HN, or writing comments on HN. The only blame lies here. ;-)
> but mastodon wants to transfer a lot of problems to whoever runs the server and to the user I'm not quite sure what you are getting at here - could you unpack it a bit?
Moderation, hosting fees, legal liability, responsibility for accounts (people invest a lot of time in creating content tied to your instance), security,etc... it is federated but all the legal,security, infra,moderation,etc... people across the world that support twitter and the like are no longer there for your mastodon instance but the only thing there that scales down/up with respect to the number of active users…
But you're just saying that the people who run the servers have to run the servers. You don't have to run your own instance - just join one you fancy.
So yes, the difficulty then becomes "is this instance being properly run?" but thats not unique to Mastodon, it also applies to things like Twitter - as we've seen. Just without the option to jump to a better Twitter instance - because there is only one.