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Re: Bluesky temporarily halts sign-ups

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I've been itching for months for a Twitter alternate, and I'm not placing much hope in the members only waitlist. Whoever is funding them needs to open the wallets to get them to scale up asap, it's like they can't take advantage of these moments when Twitter falls apart.

Yes this. It clearly seems to have emerged as a result of Twitter’s direction since, near as I can tell, Dorsey only started down that path when it became clear that Elon might not be the savior he’d hoped for. In which case I’d hope bluesky planned for the possibility of a rapid decline driving people to and made plans for very rapid scaling and it’s just that implementing them is still non trivial. And/or they didn…

Basically if you had a Twitter presence with at least several hundred followers, you probably knew someone who knew someone who had codes.

Re: Bluesky temporarily halts sign-ups

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As someone who’s had an account for awhile, I probably contributed to the problem that led to this action. You see, I’ve been sitting on a handful of invite codes because it’s not like people have been begging me for them. That was true until yesterday anyway. The Twitter fiasco revived discussion about alternatives, so next thing I know I’m handing out invite codes to people in HN comments who are showing interest i…

I've been wondering if BlueSky has been growing too slowly, doling out invite codes too cautiously as people move onto other platforms and sort of give up on it. Looks like I'm wrong. Other platforms don't seem to be scratching that twitter river-of-news itch for me. How has BlueSky been for you? It's just been such a have & have-nots situation to me (from the outside). I have no real idea if people are enjoying how…

It’s wild. I’m not a habitual social media user/checker, so my thoughts should be interpreted within that context.

Anyway, I don’t think anyone can fairly say they’re artificially growing the platform. I’ve watched them fight bots that attempt to autofollow everyone on the entire platform and engineer solutions for blatantly NSFW content filtering (but not blocking as that’s not a direct concern of theirs). They’re thinking really critically about giving users tools to give them the ability to see only the content they want to see. The coolest feature I’ve seen so far is custom feeds, which lets any user create a custom feed using whatever criteria they want to filter posts that any other user can then subsequently discover and add to their own list of feeds as an optional way to view content. For example, there’s a feed that (I presume) uses CV to include every post that includes a cat photo (no hashtags needed). It’s pretty cool.

They’re really on top of it, and when I say that I mean crazy passionate, bordering on burnout levels of on top of it. Throughout all of it they’ve been really authentically engaged, and even playful, with users.

As for users themselves, I’d say at the moment there are still really tight demographic bubbles of users on there, and everyone is an early-adopter, so the 80/20 rule doesn’t apply yet. Although it’s slowly changing, at least back in late May/April there were no lurkers. Everyone seemed to be posting and replying to everything. I find it interesting that they’ve managed to pierce beyond our techno-bubble. Not everyone on there has a technical background. I’d say they trend that direction, but they have writers and artists too, for example.

Lastly, I’ve seen some pretty neat experimenal web apps and chrome extensions being built around it. It’s all very exciting. That being said, this is early days, so it’s to be expected. I have a hunch they’re going to win this space because they seem to be making a concerted effort not to alienate users who are used to the idea of a centralized platform by not overwhelming said users with concerns that extend beyond engagement.

My concern also hinges on that, however, because it can very justly be argued that this is federation-lite or d(i)e(t)-centralization. The underlying foundation of the AT-protocol will be expensive to run. It’s the push/pull dilemma. They’re not shy about this, but they’re not exactly shouting it from the rooftops either, if you catch my drift.

Re: Bluesky temporarily halts sign-ups

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Yes this. It clearly seems to have emerged as a result of Twitter’s direction since, near as I can tell, Dorsey only started down that path when it became clear that Elon might not be the savior he’d hoped for. In which case I’d hope bluesky planned for the possibility of a rapid decline driving people to and made plans for very rapid scaling and it’s just that implementing them is still non trivial. And/or they didn…

Basically if you had a Twitter presence with at least several hundred followers, you probably knew someone who knew someone who had codes.

Ah, thanks. I wasn’t sure how they could bootstrap that sort of thing. That’s always a hurdle in a service that fundamentally requires network effects to hit critical mass.

Re: Bluesky temporarily halts sign-ups

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When a new ice cream place opens and gets overwhelmed because the McDonalds across the street can’t get its ice cream machine to work more than 2 hours a day, it would pretty funny to see a bunch of people dressed like Ronald McDonald whining that the new place gets treated differently.

The workers wouldn't care. Ray Koch's fanboys on the other hand would have been livid.

They also would have corrected you. It's Kroc not Koch. =)

Both are assholes, but in different ways.

Re: Bluesky temporarily halts sign-ups

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I kind of feel the same - they have a huge opportunity, right now , and they need to take advantage of it, right now . I tried to sign up for a couple of months, without any luck, and then gave up - there's only so much time I want to waste chasing invite codes.

Remember voat

The difference with Voat, to my mind, is that it mostly took the outflow of a sub-set of users who were aggrieved by Reddit at the time. This meant that it grew well, but was a more specific niche instead of having a broad base of users.

What's happening now with both Reddit and Twitter is effecting almost all of the users equally, which potentially opens up more of generic migration option. I'd never been that interested in Bluesky before, but in the last couple days, 5-10 people I was still sometimes checking in on on Twitter moved over, so now I can't see their posts at all on either platform since I don't have an account on either. It's a real bummer, and it feels like it's also preventing people from really committing to Bluesky, since there's no even read-only access to it, people who still want to have some reach can't use it exclusively.

Re: Bluesky temporarily halts sign-ups

#38

I've been itching for months for a Twitter alternate, and I'm not placing much hope in the members only waitlist. Whoever is funding them needs to open the wallets to get them to scale up asap, it's like they can't take advantage of these moments when Twitter falls apart.

Have you tried Mastodon? I'm not not claiming it's a direct replacement, but it is similar in many respects

Re: Bluesky temporarily halts sign-ups

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I gotta say, I am disappointed so far at both bluesky amd mastodon. They both have interesting ideas to solve problems with technical means but mastodon wants to transfer a lot of problems to whoever runs the server and to the user and bluesky sounds like it might get popular a bit but I have yet to see something about it that makes regular people care about it. Both platforms are nice for people that care about elon…

> but mastodon wants to transfer a lot of problems to whoever runs the server and to the user

I'm not quite sure what you are getting at here - could you unpack it a bit?

Re: Bluesky temporarily halts sign-ups

#40

I've been itching for months for a Twitter alternate, and I'm not placing much hope in the members only waitlist. Whoever is funding them needs to open the wallets to get them to scale up asap, it's like they can't take advantage of these moments when Twitter falls apart.

Have you tried Mastodon? I'm not not claiming it's a direct replacement, but it is similar in many respects

It feels empty, like people created accounts then left after a week since there was never the critical mass to support a constant buzz of information. And (this is just my weird very subjective opinion) Mastodon often feels like the unholy child of 2010 Tumblr and Stackoverflow.
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