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Re: Google Sidewiki

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Post by hx2a »

amadeuspagel wrote: post #33
xnx wrote: post #14

I desperately want some annotation service/standard to succeed. The idea goes as at least far back as 1993! ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_annotation ) Discussion is too important to be subject to the editorial whims to the host of the content it is discussing. I'd love to take the insight of the Hacker News community (for example) everywhere I go on the web.

There's a chrome extension for that: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/what-hacker-news-s...

Also available for Firefox!

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/what-hacker-n...

Source code:

https://github.com/pinoceniccola/what-hn-says-webext

Re: Google Sidewiki

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Post by crazygringo »

I also desperately want something like this to succeed. I want to be able to see others' reactions on all NYTimes articles, for example, not just the handful each day they enable comments on, or the occasional one submitted to HN.

And I want it to have all of the standard functionality -- hierarchical comments (like HN and Reddit), upvoting and downvoting, auto-collapsing tangential threads with less votes (like Reddit), giving more weight to users who are consistently upvoted, etc.

But also, I'm not sure if URL's are exactly the right pieces of content to associate with. Not only do you have the problem of determining canonical URL's when sites themselves don't provide them as metadata, but there's a lot of content out there that isn't a webpage: TV episodes, TV series, movies, podcast episodes, podcasts, music tracks, music albums, and so forth. Right now the closest thing there is for some of those (some TV episodes, some podcast episodes) are official posts in dedicated subreddits.

It almost makes me wonder if it would need some kind of dedicated URL scheme that could be managed by Wikipedia or MediaWiki or something, like tv://startrek-strangenewworlds.us.2022/s02/e03#tomorrow_and_tomorrow_and_tomorrow.

Re: Google Sidewiki

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Post by snerbles »

xnx wrote: post #14

I desperately want some annotation service/standard to succeed. The idea goes as at least far back as 1993! ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_annotation ) Discussion is too important to be subject to the editorial whims to the host of the content it is discussing. I'd love to take the insight of the Hacker News community (for example) everywhere I go on the web.

Dissenter was one such service, and it caused enough of a stir that its extension was banned by both Google and Mozilla.

Re: Google Sidewiki

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Post by albertzeyer »

There are browser extensions like Reddit Check or What Hacker News Says which will show Reddit and/or HN comments on any website you visit. So it's very similar in functionality. Sometimes it can be useful.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/reddit-check/mllce... https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/what-hacker-news-s...

There are more variants of these extensions.

Re: Google Sidewiki

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Post by olav »

ankitrgadiya wrote: post #7

A similar tool is https://web.hypothes.is/

I use Hypothesis a lot. It works on arbitrary sites by just invoking their javascript bookmarklet which I keep in my bookmarks. It is also very easy to integrate with static sites which is nice.

Re: Google Sidewiki

#47

Post by basch »

codetrotter wrote: post #22
bloopernova wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe a federated wiki? (Since the 'verse is cool right now) Bad actors would probably ruin it :(

> federated Make a browser plug-in that searches the URL of the currently shown page on all Kbin and Lemmy instances (federated alternatives to Reddit). Show the comments in a sidebar. That’s a modern federated “Sidewiki” right there :D

How about all discussions occurring in major communities. Why ignore places like metafilter and Fark and slashdot.

Re: Google Sidewiki

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Post by codetrotter »

basch wrote: post #47
codetrotter wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> federated Make a browser plug-in that searches the URL of the currently shown page on all Kbin and Lemmy instances (federated alternatives to Reddit). Show the comments in a sidebar. That’s a modern federated “Sidewiki” right there :D

How about all discussions occurring in major communities. Why ignore places like metafilter and Fark and slashdot.

> Why ignore places like metafilter and Fark and slashdot.

Because they are not federated.

Re: Google Sidewiki

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Post by mikepurvis »

albertzeyer wrote: post #45

There are browser extensions like Reddit Check or What Hacker News Says which will show Reddit and/or HN comments on any website you visit. So it's very similar in functionality. Sometimes it can be useful. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/reddit-check/mllce... https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/what-hacker-news-s... There are more variants of these extensions.

Piggybacking on existing communities for this feels very practical vs trying to bootstrap something from scratch.

(Particularly as it pertains to moderation, spam control, and so on)

Re: Google Sidewiki

#50

Post by ihaveajob »

Didn't one of the most recent versions of Explorer integrate something like this natively? I remember thinking it's neat, but it's hard to reach critical mass, and without reaching it, it's not very useful.
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