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Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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The arrogance of the guy is so huge, hubris does not touch him. Thoughts are with the programmers. What I’m more surprised about is how gum and shoestring the twitter engineering is now a days. They put in no emphasis on doing deep divides into the code base and instead opt to do the simplest shortest fix. And it causes problems.

Applying the simplest shortest fix can sometimes be a good method to synchronize the state of the code with management. Instead of engineering trying to buffer and fix weird management decisions, this just exposes them.

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Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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That's the first thing that came to mind. It's a pay-to-play move, which is not at all surprising. People seem to forget that fully-featured social media-centric corporations are run for profit, and if they can't get enough advertising to balance the books, then what's left but subscriptions? Sometimes people buy media corporations because they're interesting in using them to promote their other more lucrative operat…

> then what's left but subscriptions? The WeChat model is the obvious answer to that rhetorical question. Build paid services on top of your hellsite with millions of addicts using it daily. For example, Twitter could have easily been the gateway to OnlyFans, or to Patreon. Apple is another example of this kind of value-added ecosystem that leverages a foothold to sell other crap to people. Or there's the TikTok mode…

>This isn't a profit-seeking venture for Musk. This is about politics, about power, and primarily about revenge.

I strongly disagree; this is about Musk buying Twitter accidentally, and then running it as best he could without losing face as "real world iron man". He's fucking up left, right and center because he was completely unprepared to actually run it, and suddenly needs $40B to pay off his debtors.

It's also about politics, power and revenge, but it's primarily about Musk being a fucking idiot and constantly digging himself deeper.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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One thing about having leadership that is known to lie about anything or everything, for any sort of imagined personal gain, is that the very concept of truth is destroyed. I agree that this is probably not the bug at the root of it all. But I also don't believe the story that Musk is selling for why he's in effect shutting down the site. But both could be true and I'm still thinking about other potential reasons, a…

Man, the really annoying thing is that Elon-haters are so dishonest (refusing to engage when obviously wrong claims are made, repeating things that have been long disproven, repeating hearsay as fact, etc), that it's hard to actually identify any actual lies Elon has made. Meaning, not just exaggerations or failed predictions, but straight up intentional lies. My favorite is when things are claimed to be impossible,…

He has always been a rightists. He just dumped money on some cool stuff like self driving electric cars and rockets. Which is really cool, of course. But he wasn't "left with no other options". That's a lame excuse.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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The people at Twitter who understood the system and could predict the side effects were all fired or left. My guess is Elon said "the site's too slow!" Engineers noticed that the home feed request was slow. They didn't understand how it worked, had no tools to profile it, and were given an unrealistic deadline to fix it. So about the only thing they could do was issue multiple, parallel requests and hope that at leas…

> The people at Twitter who understood the system and could predict the side effects were all fired or left. You have zero idea if that is true or not.

Why should such things matter if it fits his narrative?

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Why do people oppose Twitter? It's a social network, you can choose not to use it.

Personally, not just twitter, all social media I’m happy to see it dies, and no, “stop using it” mindset isn’t an argument when it severely affects the majority of the people around you, and start not just influencing the populace opinions but shaping the next generation. Who ever controls that narrative in the media get to decide what’s the next laws to be considered, after all, that’s how democracy works.

Twitter is basically smoking. You don't have to use it to be affected, you just have to be downwind.

It was easier to ignore this when they had a more benevolent dictator.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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>The people at Twitter who understood the system and could predict the side effects were all fired or left Not necessarily. I’ve predicted bad outcomes for decisions in a few cases and been ignored but stuck around regardless. Mostly because I like my job and the goals of my organization even if it makes bad decisions. Of course to remain productive and improve my influence in future decision making it is absolutely…

People didn’t leave because of the bad decisions. They left because Musk said he wanted “hardcore” people who’d work 80 hour weeks. Turns out masochism isn’t correlated with great engineering.

I think there may be a disconnect between what Musk says and the reality on the ground. Enough so that I, given such a situation, would wait around a little bit to see how things played out before jumping ship. But as I said in my original comment, I’ve sprinted away from toxicity before, and will do so again if it becomes obvious.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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>The people at Twitter who understood the system and could predict the side effects were all fired or left Not necessarily. I’ve predicted bad outcomes for decisions in a few cases and been ignored but stuck around regardless. Mostly because I like my job and the goals of my organization even if it makes bad decisions. Of course to remain productive and improve my influence in future decision making it is absolutely…

People didn’t leave because of the bad decisions. They left because Musk said he wanted “hardcore” people who’d work 80 hour weeks. Turns out masochism isn’t correlated with great engineering.

yeah its correlated with getting deported from the US if you lose your employer

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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post #676

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You might be right; the person you're replying to might have zero idea. Now me... I know someone personally who was a senior exec for Twitter's software team, who left after Elon's purge. He left because all the people who understood the system and could predict the side effects were fired or left. He'd been with companies going through death spirals before, and had no interest in being involved with another one. So,…

I don't know you or your friend, but thinking how dreadful some hiring process can be, I would defer changing my job as much as possible..

Hiring processes are a cakewalk compared to company in death spiral. Damn, even compared to a company with a bad period of high pressure.

It’s a mistake to stay.

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