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Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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Re: Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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Subscriptions are a scam. I am actively consolidating my payments and shifting to next best alternatives that give me one time pay options or open source and contributing there.

Rossman's got a method for that too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur_svGeReDg

TLDW: Virtual credit cards

Re: Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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post #78

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I'm with you in the spirit of hurting Autodesk, but the FOSS alternatives, while able to produce a similar product, simply use different metaphors and concepts then F360/Inventor/etc do. It's not like the switch from WinRAR to 7-Zip, it's a long ordeal of the (possibly already overloaded) designer learning how to do everything over again. There is very little carry-over aside from general design knowledge; and it may…

I would also like to add that part of the value of Fusion 360 and similar packages is that they use either the Parasolid Kernel (developed by Siemens), or the ACIS Kernel (developed by Dassault Systemes), or a variant (I think AutoCAD has their own ACIS fork from long ago). If you use either of those kernels, you can handle incredibly complex geometry (or even just things that seem simple but aren't, like Fillets) wi…

Good summary — Parasolid is indeed the key here. I think it’s a similar story in the chip design space — there are not many good open source tools at scale, most people turn to Cadence and Synopsys who have been developing crazily complex (and buggy!) EDA tools since the 1980s.

Re: Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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For Australians, if you are affected, this is the kind of issue that should be raised with ACCC at https://www.accc.gov.au/about-us/contact-us/report-a-consume... . It falls under the Australian Consumer Protection under misleading or deceptive conduct.[0] A lifetime licence marketed as such cannot be withdrawn let alone with EULA/TOS presented after the purchase.[1] Probably could also get your money back from the r…

Are people/orgs who file such complaints legally protected from retaliation? For instance, might Autodesk respond by giving complainants a full refund and a lifetime ban from their products?

It would likely fall under "unconscionable conduct" which is illegal under the ACL.

I would imagine it would difficult for them to prevent individual licences being sold through their retail/online mechanisms.. You would have more limited protections if >100,000 in licence fees, and they may or may not have an enterprise programs for those purchasing that many licences. But where they engage in retaliatory behaviour they could be sued and through discovery determine if they refused to engage with you or jack up the prices in retaliation for a lawful complaint. As you can imagine this would be expensive but... you would also likely be at a scale that could afford such litigation.

Re: Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm with you in the spirit of hurting Autodesk, but the FOSS alternatives, while able to produce a similar product, simply use different metaphors and concepts then F360/Inventor/etc do. It's not like the switch from WinRAR to 7-Zip, it's a long ordeal of the (possibly already overloaded) designer learning how to do everything over again. There is very little carry-over aside from general design knowledge; and it may…

I would also like to add that part of the value of Fusion 360 and similar packages is that they use either the Parasolid Kernel (developed by Siemens), or the ACIS Kernel (developed by Dassault Systemes), or a variant (I think AutoCAD has their own ACIS fork from long ago). If you use either of those kernels, you can handle incredibly complex geometry (or even just things that seem simple but aren't, like Fillets) wi…

> To them, it's like saying we should rebuild Windows, but it's PhD-level math instead of APIs.

Sage Math and all of it component software succeeded in that. Thus, I don't think it's something impossible.

Re: Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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See also when ManyCam https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35538192 >, Filmora https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34199153 > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34177057 >, and mIRC https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33864660 > all pulled the exact same scam.

seems like if anything requires online verifying that just means "you don't own it" I guess. That sorta thing is makin life difficult

Re: Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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post #113

Subscriptions are a scam. I am actively consolidating my payments and shifting to next best alternatives that give me one time pay options or open source and contributing there.

I feel same about salaries. Paying monthly salary is a scam. Can I buy your time for life for a 1 time payment? But seriously, calling subscription a "scam" is very delusional. It seems like you have not released a product/saas. I support your effort in supporting and contributing to opensource though.

Sure, pay me $10m upfront and I'm all yours for the 40 years I expect to work. I invest some of that and it turns into $20-$30m or more. Huge win tonget upfront payment if you're fine speculating a bit with the money.

>But seriously, calling subscription a "scam" is very delusional.

I think converting a one payment package to a reoccurring payment is a scam.

Re: Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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My recommendation would be Fedora Silverblue[0]. I have for years used different flavors of Ubuntu and Arch, but must admit, I always had some issues, no matter the distro. Mind you, purely counting the problems, the amount was either comparable or slightly less than what I tended to encounter on Windows installs, but still, I get that adding any issues on top of less familiarity and lower software compatibility is a…

Is the Fedora Project also going to follow Red Hat in the same bad direction? I thought for the most part that it is community maintained and the upstream version of RHEL.

You are correct that Fedora is mainly community driven and currently receives a large part of its funding from Red Hat. I could have phrased my initial post better, I am currently not concerned that their actions could negatively affect the long term success of Fedora (as I highly doubt they'd take contributors away from their own upstream), it was more about giving credit where it's due to an organization that I view critically overall.

Re: Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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Why not use a decent headlamp? So much more comfortable.

There was a time where lights were too big to be on headlamps. Many of us of a certain vintage grew up holding what were essentially metal cages around regular household light bulbs attached to a power cable for our parents and grandparents while they worked on carburetors or whatnot.

Did you call them "drop light" or "trouble light" (Drop light for me)

Re: Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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Where in Eastern Europe? Pretty sure in Romania police have better things to do than raid you for using pirated software at work.

The BSA has been active here for more than 2 decades now. And they cooperate with local law enforcement. Pirated software can easily cost tens of thousands of dollars - so the cops simply can't ignore financial crimes this big. I've also heard that they ignore stuff like music and movies on those PCs, because it's too much work to prove whether they are legal or not, and they cost peanuts compared to stuff like AutoC…

Should I, or anyone here, know what the BSA acronym is? Or am I the only one?

Re: Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The BSA has been active here for more than 2 decades now. And they cooperate with local law enforcement. Pirated software can easily cost tens of thousands of dollars - so the cops simply can't ignore financial crimes this big. I've also heard that they ignore stuff like music and movies on those PCs, because it's too much work to prove whether they are legal or not, and they cost peanuts compared to stuff like AutoC…

Should I, or anyone here, know what the BSA acronym is? Or am I the only one?

Birmingham Small Arms company!!

Fantastic motorcycles .. and other goods.

Or, more likely, this Business Software Alliance:

https://www.bsa.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Alliance

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