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Re: Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic

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post #154

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I disagree, only because I’m on Mastodon and a ton of people are missing. A large chunk of the Apple nerd ecosystem I followed on Twitter moved, and I like that I can still follow them. But everyone else I followed either never moved or quickly gave up and seems to have taken up residence on Bluesky. So without an invite code, and the possibility Twitter will disappear real quick, I’m left with no way to follow them…

> But everyone else I followed either never moved or quickly gave up and seems to have taken up residence on Bluesky. What were the types of people who moved over to Bluesky?

Some of them are just less tech-y.

Mastodon can give a very poor reception. There are a lot of people who seem to consider it there and are mad other people are showing up and not following their self-imposed rules on all servers. Instantly telling people they’re doing things ‘wrong’.

The people (not many, I think, but enough) can be rude about it or downright hostile. They’re like the RMS GNU/Linux brigaders of social networks.

And they drive people away.

I’ve seen a lot of people say they don’t want to be on Twitter due to Elon actively encouraging horrible things, and Mastodon treated them (or a friend) poorly.

Even if they’ve tried both, they say Bluesky feels more like the fun old twitter, whereas Mastodon can be very serious (I’ve seen this problem too).

I sort of get the feeling Mastodon lost it’s big moment due to the behavior of many users.

I haven’t been on Bluesky. Someone gave me a code (thanks a ton!) but since signups are locked at the moment I haven’t been able to jump on.

Re: Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic

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Not sure I'm going to click on something called skeeet.xyz, especially not if, looking it up, that's just another redirector

Skeet is how posts are unofficially called on Bluesky, from sky + tweet ;)

Yikes...that's an absolutely terrible name, made even worse by the fact that the word already has rather unsavory slang meaning...

Re: Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic

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Skeet is how posts are unofficially called on Bluesky, from sky + tweet ;)

Yikes...that's an absolutely terrible name, made even worse by the fact that the word already has rather unsavory slang meaning...

Yeah that's the joke

Re: Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic

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>Etherium issues updates all the time to reverse transactions that happened due to hacks. Why waste your time and others posting lies on the internet? Easily debunked ones at that.

This good enough evidence for you? https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-779

The DAO fork is nothing like you describe, and was a singular incident in the first major smart contract.

BTC had a similar fork in its early days to work around a bug that actually minted illegitimate coins, yet maxis sweep that under the rug.

But you knew this, you knew what the DAO fork was. You know when it happened. You knew it was the first major smart contract. You know the context it happened in. You know the community overwhelmingly supported it. You also knew it hasn’t happened since, yet you still went out and lied.

Why?

Re: Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic

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post #132

Here are some invite codes. Because some people are complaining about bots to use these you should: (1) reverse the order of the stuff before/after the hyphen (12345-67890 -> 67890-12345) (2) add "bsky-social-" to the beginning. Here are the codes: 45whe-qoupi gmuxm-k6x3j tc30d-wwpjb tqunq-rtgar 7wecn-kfevc I won't be online to delete these so if you use one (or try to use one and find it's done) please leave a comme…

Got any more invites? I appreciate if you send me one to cliche.finest.0k@icloud.com -- thanks

Re: Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic

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Well, feel free to refer to the case law of LinkedIn vs. HiQ, as I said in the comment you replied to. That is law.

I did, thanks. In that case, it looks like the scraper prevailed: "The Ninth Circuit's declaration that selectively banning potential competitors from accessing and using data that is publicly available can be considered unfair competition under California law may have large implication for antitrust law."

I think you need to look deeper. The case went back to trial multiple times after that and in the last case, HiQ was found to be in the wrong.

The court ruled for hiQ and the right to do web scraping. However, the Supreme Court, based on its Van Buren v. United States decision, vacated the decision and remanded the case for further review in June 2021. In a second ruling in April 2022 the Ninth Circuit affirmed its decision. In a November 2022 ruling the Ninth Circuit ruled that hiQ had breached LinkedIn's User Agreement and a settlement agreement was reached between the two parties.[0]

Practically speaking, though, the dispute had essentially reached its logical end with the last court ruling in November – hiQ had prevailed on the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA) “unauthorized access” issue related to public website data but was facing a ruling that it had breached LinkedIn’s User Agreement due to its scraping and creation of fake accounts (subject to its equitable defenses).[1]

So basically, it’s not criminal under the CFAA. Thank god. But that’s just one specific law that doesn’t apply. It still is a breach of contract and various forms of damages and injunctive relief can be found against scrapers. If the two conditions are met that I wrote several posts ago, any business based on scraping sites that have the money and motivation to find relief through the courts will be untenable. That business would find that it cannot sustain itself against repeated court actions taken against it.

ToS != law, only in the very strictest naive sense. There are plenty of laws which deal with what happens once you agree to a contract and then breach the contract. Once you agree to the ToS, you have to deal with the legal framework of business law as it applies to contracts.

If, for example, OpenAI wants to scrape Twitter in violation of the ToS, Twitter could find relief in the form of “specific performance” where the court requires OpenAI to remove all that information from its training dataset and retrain ChatGPT again. Twitter could also get damages for the times that ChatGPT served customers with the infringing model. If OpenAI didn’t fully remove the data, it would be exposed to escalating damages in the form of contempt of court remedies.

0: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HiQ_Labs_v._LinkedIn

1: https://www.natlawreview.com/article/hiq-and-linkedin-reach-...

Re: Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic

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Contractual agreements are enforceable at law. That's what makes them contracts.

You also can't put illegal stuff into a contract to make it legal. Also, I didn't sign anything.

> Also, I didn't sign anything.

It's hard to take this generously. What do you mean by this, specifically? Are you saying "I didn't take out a pen and sign a physical piece of paper"? Or are you saying "I didn't click anything that says "I agree to the ToS"?

What actions are you intending which you feel are enabled by not signing anything?

Re: Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic

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post #146

Since Bluesky is invite-only and there's a lot of clamoring for invite codes, it's easy to think that you're missing out if you're not a member. I'd like to offer a different perspective, that most HN readers would probably be happier on Mastodon than Bluesky. In particular, Bluesky is very small, has a strange vibe, and has almost no technical content or people interested in it. The number of participants on Bluesky…

Ostensibly they are similar but there are some old threads also about how [bluesky TOS gives license to all your content](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35755501). Also, Bluesky is run by a private company. Mastodon and Bluesky have different ideologies behind them.

Re: Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic

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Yikes...that's an absolutely terrible name, made even worse by the fact that the word already has rather unsavory slang meaning...

Yeah that's the joke

That's a great joke if you want to keep people off your platform. Then again, we can also pretend its from skeet shooting, something that happens in the sky. Still ridiculous to need a separate site to show the content of your site, though.
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