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Re: Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic

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By LinkedIn vs. HiQ -- if two things are both true then scraping is illegal: 1) The ToS has clauses in it against scraping 2) There is a login wall that enforces agreeing to the ToS before seeing any content. #2 is true for now, I can't verify #1.

TOS ≠ law

Contractual agreements are enforceable at law. That's what makes them contracts.

Re: Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic

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Since Bluesky is invite-only and there's a lot of clamoring for invite codes, it's easy to think that you're missing out if you're not a member. I'd like to offer a different perspective, that most HN readers would probably be happier on Mastodon than Bluesky. In particular, Bluesky is very small, has a strange vibe, and has almost no technical content or people interested in it. The number of participants on Bluesky…

I disagree, only because I’m on Mastodon and a ton of people are missing. A large chunk of the Apple nerd ecosystem I followed on Twitter moved, and I like that I can still follow them. But everyone else I followed either never moved or quickly gave up and seems to have taken up residence on Bluesky. So without an invite code, and the possibility Twitter will disappear real quick, I’m left with no way to follow them…

> But everyone else I followed either never moved or quickly gave up and seems to have taken up residence on Bluesky.

What were the types of people who moved over to Bluesky?

Re: Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic

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By LinkedIn vs. HiQ -- if two things are both true then scraping is illegal: 1) The ToS has clauses in it against scraping 2) There is a login wall that enforces agreeing to the ToS before seeing any content. #2 is true for now, I can't verify #1.

TOS ≠ law

Well, feel free to refer to the case law of LinkedIn vs. HiQ, as I said in the comment you replied to. That is law.

Re: Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic

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So bluesky has been in development for 2+ years, is well funded, is invite only, has a few thousand total active users, and still can't handle the load.. Is this supposed to be the great Twitter killer?

It's shocking. I've been very optimistic because they have infinite money to throw at it, and no need for a profit. Is persistent peer-to-peer messaging just impossible to write?

Re: Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic

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It might just be their opinions mature with time. These aren't exactly outlandish opinions

Jack is still shilling for RFK Jr.

RFK, Jr. is a presidential candidate with nearly as much support as Biden. I'd never vote for him*, and I'm not interested in much he has to say, but everything he says is well within the (statistical) mainstream of belief.

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[*] I'm not voting for any relative of another president, or probably even a relative of a congressperson; though it looks like one, I like to think this isn't a banana republic. Also, RFK, Jr. was against vaccines even when they weren't lying about them, and made his "political" bones by being against windfarms.

Re: Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic

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Jack is still shilling for RFK Jr.

RFK, Jr. is a presidential candidate with nearly as much support as Biden. I'd never vote for him*, and I'm not interested in much he has to say, but everything he says is well within the (statistical) mainstream of belief. ----- [*] I'm not voting for any relative of another president, or probably even a relative of a congressperson; though it looks like one, I like to think this isn't a banana republic. Also, RFK,…

> RFK, Jr. is a presidential candidate with nearly as much support as Biden

He's polling between 45-60 percentage points behind Biden in most national Democratic primary polling; in the few key states that already have state level polling published are mostly in the same range, though he’s only 40 points behind in one recent Wisconsin poll.

“nearly as much support as Biden” is nowhere close to the supported by evidence.

Re: Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic

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BlueSky is a Public Benefit LLC btw https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/2-7-2022-overview

PBLLC still has shareholders for the record it's not entirely clear who are the specific shareholders of Bluesky PBLLC other than a vague mention it was "the team itself". https://twitter.com/bluesky/status/1518707603232083968

> PBLLC still has shareholders

Strictly speaking, no, they don’t, and neither do regular LLCs. Corporations have shareholders, partnerships have pattners, and LLCs have members.

Re: Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic

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Since Bluesky is invite-only and there's a lot of clamoring for invite codes, it's easy to think that you're missing out if you're not a member. I'd like to offer a different perspective, that most HN readers would probably be happier on Mastodon than Bluesky. In particular, Bluesky is very small, has a strange vibe, and has almost no technical content or people interested in it. The number of participants on Bluesky…

Yes, this has absolutely been my experience too. I'm defending the protocol pretty vociferously downthread but the experience itself is exactly what you say: not the meaty tech talk I can go on Twitter or Mastodon for. I was there for the skeets and hellthreads and whatever other meme of the day: it's pretty awful and if you're not participating, you get no likes, because the memelords are the ones racking up high sc…

I can confirm, Bsky is absolutely diminutive compared to even Mastodon. I've had enough productive conversations on Mastodon I now include it in my little bubble of 'social media sites where I may reach out and have a conversation with someone'.

Bsky is just... I open it and post things sometimes, but all the people I've found on it who I've followed don't even do that, so it's kinda empty (at least in the tech space).

I do like their mobile app a hundred times better than Twitter's, but ten times less than Ivory.

Re: Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic

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Mastodon will never take off because of its fundamentally terrible onboarding. Having to pick a server is incompatible with the general public using it. Bluesky is the only real contender right now. It doesn’t matter that it has a low user count. The main threat is that there’s no real incentive for people to run their own BGS. We’ll see how that pans out.

People handle creating an email address just fine. There's some terminology and UX to work out but it's hardly insurmountable.

But there's no real competition to email for email.

For 'short bits of social interaction and media content sharing', there are like a dozen sites with very active userbases these days.

Re: Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic

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Since Bluesky is invite-only and there's a lot of clamoring for invite codes, it's easy to think that you're missing out if you're not a member. I'd like to offer a different perspective, that most HN readers would probably be happier on Mastodon than Bluesky. In particular, Bluesky is very small, has a strange vibe, and has almost no technical content or people interested in it. The number of participants on Bluesky…

Mastodon will never take off because of its fundamentally terrible onboarding. Having to pick a server is incompatible with the general public using it. Bluesky is the only real contender right now. It doesn’t matter that it has a low user count. The main threat is that there’s no real incentive for people to run their own BGS. We’ll see how that pans out.

joinmastodon.org -> "Create account" -> Pick a server (the one extra step) -> fill in the signup form

There's one extra step, I think that's not terrible.

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