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Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by sleepycatgirl »

redox99 wrote: post #109
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #28

Meanwhile, I can see this very Mastadon post with no login just fine. And the interface is not trying to assault me. It loads quick. ...Seems like a better product than Twitter for a public feed.

On Mastodon simply discussing certain topics will get you banned, and instances that don't ban those users get defederated. I prefer Twitter in the sense that it's more laissez faire in terms of what kinds of speech get you banned.

That is.. quite opposite from the experience I have had. I have discussed a fair amount of topics, it was civil, and things were fine.

Though, the only time when I did see that happen, was when someone was transphobic, homophobic, racist and such.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by bigbillheck »

redox99 wrote: post #109
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #28

Meanwhile, I can see this very Mastadon post with no login just fine. And the interface is not trying to assault me. It loads quick. ...Seems like a better product than Twitter for a public feed.

On Mastodon simply discussing certain topics will get you banned, and instances that don't ban those users get defederated. I prefer Twitter in the sense that it's more laissez faire in terms of what kinds of speech get you banned.

What kind of topics would those be?

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by nkozyra »

redox99 wrote: post #109
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #28

Meanwhile, I can see this very Mastadon post with no login just fine. And the interface is not trying to assault me. It loads quick. ...Seems like a better product than Twitter for a public feed.

On Mastodon simply discussing certain topics will get you banned, and instances that don't ban those users get defederated. I prefer Twitter in the sense that it's more laissez faire in terms of what kinds of speech get you banned.

> I prefer Twitter in the sense that it's more laissez faire in terms of what kinds of speech get you banned.

I really don't think it is. It's still largely political, and subject to the whim of the reader.

The guy who tracked and reported on Twitter Blue subscriptions was suspended today.

You always have to kiss someone's ring.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by danso »

jtrip wrote: post #97
Pxtl wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mastodon.social is chugging along just fine

Meaning.. people prefer bluesky to mastodon?

A lot of people who’ve wanted to jump ship to Mastodon have had plenty of opportunity to do so in the past year. Bsky is still invite only but had significantly increased its rate of handing out invite codes in the past 2 weeks. Today might be the day that invitees have decided to finally check things out

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#125

Post by jug »

ceejayoz wrote: post #117
redox99 wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On Mastodon simply discussing certain topics will get you banned, and instances that don't ban those users get defederated. I prefer Twitter in the sense that it's more laissez faire in terms of what kinds of speech get you banned.

“On Mastodon” is like saying “in restaurants”. There’s a wide variety of instances to various tastes.

Yes, but the point being made is that you then choose a more welcoming instance and then it's defederated instead because it allowed your post, so then your Mastodon experience sucks anyway and you only gave yourself an illusion of freedom.

I'm not sure how common this issue is but I _can_ say that I've been through a defederation bullshit myself because the large instance did something as egregious as welcoming people regardless alignment to Swedish government party (i.e. any party with over 4% of votes in Sweden). That was far too much for some instances like mastodon.art to handle. The admin got fed up since he had neither will nor moderation resources of that kind and shut down the instance, so everyone had to migrate which is a headache by its own even if supported.

From other stories, I swear the greatest threat to the Fediverse is politics and more or less childish cross-instance strife. I just now checked my Mastodon feed and this very fucking issue was discussed once more so I guess some drama has went down again while I was away. There's been trouble of this kind on Lemmy too already.

People say "it's like e-mail". Yeah, if we have like 20 major e-mail servers in the world and there's drama across them as we bet on the winners via Patreon.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by Topfi »

Speaking from very painful, personal experience, few things are more agitating than being forced to execute on something you fully know is a horrible idea, especially when you tried and failed to communicate this fact to the individual pushing you to go against your best judgement.

Even more so when that person later loudly proclaims that they never made such a request, even when provided with written proof.

I can of course not say whether the people currently working at Twitter did warn that the recent measures could have such major side effects, but I would not be surprised in the slightest, considering their leadership's mode of operation.

Even as someone who very much detests what Twitter has become over the last few months and in fact did not like Twitter before the acquisition, partly due to short format making nuance impossible, but mostly for the effect Tweets easy embeddability had on reporting (3 Tweets from random people should not serve as the main basis for an article in my opinion), I must say, I feel very sorry for the people forced to work at that company under that management.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

#127

Post by reaperman »

redox99 wrote: post #109
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #28

Meanwhile, I can see this very Mastadon post with no login just fine. And the interface is not trying to assault me. It loads quick. ...Seems like a better product than Twitter for a public feed.

On Mastodon simply discussing certain topics will get you banned, and instances that don't ban those users get defederated. I prefer Twitter in the sense that it's more laissez faire in terms of what kinds of speech get you banned.

> On ~~Mastodon~~ Twitter simply discussing certain topics will get you banned.

Also true.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by mastodon_acc »

redox99 wrote: post #109
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #28

Meanwhile, I can see this very Mastadon post with no login just fine. And the interface is not trying to assault me. It loads quick. ...Seems like a better product than Twitter for a public feed.

On Mastodon simply discussing certain topics will get you banned, and instances that don't ban those users get defederated. I prefer Twitter in the sense that it's more laissez faire in terms of what kinds of speech get you banned.

Which instance? Sounds like you joined a niche instance of a few hundred people. I find twitter to be extremely restrictive, you can’t have open discussions, you either get banned or get piled on by abusive blue check accounts.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by LeoPanthera »

golergka wrote: post #116
redox99 wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On Mastodon simply discussing certain topics will get you banned, and instances that don't ban those users get defederated. I prefer Twitter in the sense that it's more laissez faire in terms of what kinds of speech get you banned.

Can I read more about this? What topics are banned?

When they say "banned", they mean "if I say grotesquely offensive things, other people will chose not to listen".

You know, just like in real life.

There are plenty of instances that allow abhorrent content, if that's what you want, but you can't force others to receive it.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

sleepycatgirl wrote: post #121
redox99 wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On Mastodon simply discussing certain topics will get you banned, and instances that don't ban those users get defederated. I prefer Twitter in the sense that it's more laissez faire in terms of what kinds of speech get you banned.

That is.. quite opposite from the experience I have had. I have discussed a fair amount of topics, it was civil, and things were fine. Though, the only time when I did see that happen, was when someone was transphobic, homophobic, racist and such.

>Though, the only time when I did see that happen, was when someone was transphobic, homophobic, racist and such

“I mean, when all the wrong and bad people are kicked out everything is great!”

No one is complaining about people with Ford vs Chevy comments being banned. It’s the controversial things that need to be refuted, not hidden.

What makes you so absolutely certain you are on the “right side” of any opinion? Because the people in charge of these services are censoring the other side?

How long before you find yourself with “the wrong thoughts”?

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