Wish there were opportunities for non-European & non-American people to work in these inspiring and endeavoring organizations
There are? Japan (JAXA), India (ISRO), China (CNSA) and Russia (Roscosmos) all do science missions.
SpaceX rocket launches Euclid space telescope to map the 'dark universe'
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#12Do we need an article about the trucking company that brought the telescope to the launch pad as well? Surely all freight carriers are due recognition? This headline makes it sounds like SpaceX is more that a freight carrier here, undoubtedly for clicks. Being a freight carrier to space is indeed very cool, and exciting, but they didn’t make the telescope.
Why write about launches? We could wait until it starts gathering data because that’s what really matters, right? Given that it’s a rocket launch, crediting the company that did the launch makes some sense.
Why not write about launches? It is not every day ESA launches a telescope to a Lagrange point after all.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
India has ISRO Japan has JAXA The UAE have a space agency that even has a Mars mission running currently. Same for China. There's more I'm forgetting, but space stuff is not limited to Europe and the US.
Very true, although I assume that most or all of those listed have their own form of ITAR. Space (mostly defense) is inherently siloed to country borders.
Isn't that most large capital intensive efforts?
Also to be fair a lot of US defense and aero contractors have manufacturing partnerships around the world.
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#14Wish there were opportunities for non-European & non-American people to work in these inspiring and endeavoring organizations
I think that the UN had a program for facilitating smaller nations access to space. Currently, I'm finding only the outer space office there though. Alternatively, many of the private space companies don't have citizenship requirements.
>Alternatively, many of the private space companies don't have citizenship requirements.
In America at least private companies are equally covered by ITAR, so they do have citizenship/greencard requirements (or need a variance that is nearly never granted in practice). SpaceX can't just hire international talent as it wishes. I assume there may be similar rules in some other countries, though certainly not all. But it's not merely a matter of private vs public fwiw.
Re: SpaceX rocket launches Euclid space telescope to map the 'dark universe'
#15Do we need an article about the trucking company that brought the telescope to the launch pad as well? Surely all freight carriers are due recognition? This headline makes it sounds like SpaceX is more that a freight carrier here, undoubtedly for clicks. Being a freight carrier to space is indeed very cool, and exciting, but they didn’t make the telescope.
Why write about launches? We could wait until it starts gathering data because that’s what really matters, right? Given that it’s a rocket launch, crediting the company that did the launch makes some sense.
Why write about when it starts collecting data? We could wait until actual worldview changing research results surface because that’s what really matters.
The fact of the matter is worldview changing results will likely not ever surface, just as they didn’t from JWST. So instead press departments pretend all the steps along the way are important because it helps improve public sentiment for the financing of these “moonshots” (which hardly even deserve the name, we haven’t accomplished anything remotely like placing a man on the moon in decades).
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#16Wish there were opportunities for non-European & non-American people to work in these inspiring and endeavoring organizations
There's plenty of contractors working on space technology that would hire someone without citizenship, I'm sure.
Strictly speaking for American contractors, I'm 99% sure that is not true. If you have any contract with the government for space stuff, all of your workers have to be citizens. I'm not even sure they'd let a permanent resident work there because of ITAR.
Re: SpaceX rocket launches Euclid space telescope to map the 'dark universe'
#17Do we need an article about the trucking company that brought the telescope to the launch pad as well? Surely all freight carriers are due recognition? This headline makes it sounds like SpaceX is more that a freight carrier here, undoubtedly for clicks. Being a freight carrier to space is indeed very cool, and exciting, but they didn’t make the telescope.
> This headline makes it sounds like SpaceX is more that a freight carrier here, undoubtedly for clicks.
How many commercial freight carriers do you think are options right now?
I would love for rocket launches to be as mundane as hiring a trucker... but they aren't.
Re: SpaceX rocket launches Euclid space telescope to map the 'dark universe'
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why write about launches? We could wait until it starts gathering data because that’s what really matters, right? Given that it’s a rocket launch, crediting the company that did the launch makes some sense.
Why write about when it starts collecting data? We could wait until actual worldview changing research results surface because that’s what really matters. The fact of the matter is worldview changing results will likely not ever surface, just as they didn’t from JWST. So instead press departments pretend all the steps along the way are important because it helps improve public sentiment for the financing of these “mo…
> The fact of the matter is worldview changing results will likely not ever surface, just as they didn’t from JWST.
What do you count as worldview changing result? Who promised you that the JWST will deliver such things?
You are also quite quick to write off a mission with a 20 year design lifespan.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's plenty of contractors working on space technology that would hire someone without citizenship, I'm sure.
Strictly speaking for American contractors, I'm 99% sure that is not true. If you have any contract with the government for space stuff, all of your workers have to be citizens. I'm not even sure they'd let a permanent resident work there because of ITAR.
Permanent residents are considered US persons under ITAR, so provided the company's activities are limited to civilian space projects it isn't an issue. However, if the company has defense contracts and requires employees to obtain a security clearance, that requires citizenship.
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#20Wish there were opportunities for non-European & non-American people to work in these inspiring and endeavoring organizations
India has ISRO Japan has JAXA The UAE have a space agency that even has a Mars mission running currently. Same for China. There's more I'm forgetting, but space stuff is not limited to Europe and the US.
I'm part of the rest of the 4 billion. The ones you mentioned only take their own citizens (probably except UAE).