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Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by lawn »

olalonde wrote: post #247
faefox wrote: post #85

It really feels like we're witnessing the end of an era. Elon is doggedly piloting Twitter into the ground and Reddit seems strangely compelled to follow his lead. Reddit may recover - I'm not so sure about Twitter. What technologies will take their place? In a time where it's never been easier to stand up your own website/forum/what have you, could we possibly see a gradual return to a pre-corporate Internet?

It doesn't feel like that to me. Elon reported that Twitter hit a new all time high of "user seconds" last week. Reddit usage doesn't seem to have gone down much. In my opinion, what you are really experiencing is wishful thinking.

How many times must Elon lie before people stop taking is word as truth?

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Post by minimaxir »

kuchenbecker wrote: post #328
user_named wrote: post #293

Reminder that Elon didn't even intend to buy Twitter He wanted to sell ~$2.5 Billion Tesla stock at all-time highs without causing the stock price to significantly deflate, so he used the Twitter purchase suggestion as a cover. He did similar pump and dump schemes with crypto - like Dogecoin - but because Elon is fundamentally a dumb guy, he did the extraordinarily stupid thing of signing a purchase agreement with Tw…

Most of the money was loaned, and the debt is now Twitters and not his.

Elon rolled Twitter into X Corp, which would mean the debt is entangled with his other assets and may make things messy in the inevitable lender lawsuits.

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Post by cududa »

nperez wrote: post #17
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #15

I refuse to believe that Twitter is so hammered by scrapers that it can’t even serve text content.

I don't think it's about servers getting hammered so much as it's about AI causing them to rethink the value of their data, then deciding user hostility is the best way to extract said value

Or that they haven’t paid Google server bills for 4 months and Google threatened to cut them off on July 1st

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by cududa »

Quarrelsome wrote: post #213
pawelduda wrote: post #43

Good guy Elon, giving people time to contemplate on each tweet, helping them unlearn mindless scrolling habits Can we also have it closed on Sundays?

> Can we also have it closed on Sundays? I'm getting flashbacks to the awful luddite boomer propaganda Spielberg crowbarred into the end of "Ready Player One" where he made the online virtual world closed on Tuesdays and Thursdays.

That was from the book

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Post by rideontime »

minimaxir wrote: post #322

Update from Elon: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1675214274627530754 > Rate limits increasing soon to 8000 for verified, 800 for unverified & 400 for new unverified lolwut. Quoting a post from Mastodon: https://mstdn.social/@maxkennerly/110640373859329500 > LOL this is not how you deal with "data scraping," this is how you deal with a catastrophic loss of system capacity. > You limit data scraping by blocking th…

So, like, two more feed refreshes per day? Watching the requests in dev tools, it's definitely based on fetches and not impressions.

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Post by stubybubs »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #315
stubybubs wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not really sure what she thought was going to happen. There is no way that Musk was going to stop making decisions, especially about content moderation, which is really the main concern of advertisers. If he wants it to be his kind of speech over the concerns of advertisers, that's what it's going to be, and she has no path to success. I've heard Elon really seems like he's listening and that he's actually going…

> not really sure what she thought was going to happen Fat severance package, a post-termination book deal and international name recognition?

Probably. She's 60, I'm sure she could keep working if she wanted to, but maybe getting involved in the wildest ride in tech is a good story from which to launch your retirement career of being a media personality yourself. I'm sure she'd be perfect on Bill Maher or something. I could see it being a good compensation package too. Several millions more in the bank to salute the captain on a sinking ship, then sneak off to a lifeboat.

And name recognition too. This is the first I had ever heard of her. So, good move there.

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Post by minroot »

In early days people left because of leadership reasons, but the tech was still fine. But now, although the tech is there it is caged. I guess early people knew the future better than others and took initiative to leave. At this point no one have to decide between the two.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by bardak »

AlexandrB wrote: post #235
PheonixPharts wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm always a bit surprised how few people realized how many "nice things" from the last decade plus have been heavily subsidized by VC money (which itself was created from low interest rates). Every cool startup that people loved started by burning cash. This made Uber cheap, DoorDash cheap, Youtube helpful and creative, Facebook about connecting with classmates, Twitter a free public forum, Reddit a playground for f…

What's frustrating about all this is the resources wasted on growing businesses that were fundamentally unsustainable. I think a tougher economic climate would have been better for innovation long-term.

Honestly outside of the Youtube/Imgur I don't think these companies are unsustainable. The problem is the VCs are aiming for huge returns. Instead of focusing on their niche and running a lean but profitable business they are forced to chase trends and exponential growth.

Who on Reddit wanted chat or live streams. Why is Facebook spending so much money on videos. does Uber really make any money off hellocopters rides. These aren't what people came to these platforms for and are just costing them a huge amount of money.

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