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Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by SoftTalker »

eterm wrote: post #242
rsynnott wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you use Twitter? Even at the best of times, you learn to flip though fairly quickly skimming over the nonsense, and since the ascension of naughty ol’ mr car bluetick replies get promoted to the front of the queue, so you have to scroll past a sea of bullshit to get to the real replies. Twitter with 600 tweets a day is clearly unusable. That’s one large thread, and you’ll scroll past most of it anyway.

I don't use Twitter. (Or haven't since ~2006). That sounds like a miserable user experience in general, what compels you to seek out that experience?

I don't use twitter either but I guess it's the same reason many of us come here. We find it interesting and/or entertaining. I know I've had days where I killed hours on HN. I try to avoid it, but still probably spend more time here than I get in compensating benefit. Very little of what is discussed here is really important in a significant way if you take a step back and evaluate it honestly.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by ericfrazier »

iguana_lawyer wrote: post #229
diegocg wrote: post #171

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The weirdest thing of this era is that we don't see the big players (eg. Google) trying to take advantage of this situation and create an alternative.

A platform where everyone but nazis could say whatever they want (as long as it isn’t something a nazi would say) would be so popular.

I like the shadow ban system. Let users decide which other users get bannedthrough down or upvotes on comments.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by user_named »

Reminder that Elon didn't even intend to buy Twitter

He wanted to sell ~$2.5 Billion Tesla stock at all-time highs without causing the stock price to significantly deflate, so he used the Twitter purchase suggestion as a cover. He did similar pump and dump schemes with crypto - like Dogecoin - but because Elon is fundamentally a dumb guy, he did the extraordinarily stupid thing of signing a purchase agreement with Twitter

Elon thought he'd be able to wiggle out of it because he assumed the SEC would be the regulatory body he'd be up against - and to his credit he has made a career out of making the SEC look like spineless chumps - but much to Elon's horror he actually found himself before the almighty Delaware Court of Chancery

So in an effort to slyly make a couple Billion $'s, Elon torched ~$40 Billion of his personal wealth, in what is arguably the biggest bag fumbling in modern history

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by throw2022110401 »

rvense wrote: post #187
ceejayoz wrote: post #129

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This is the move that elevates “the Saudis funded this to kill Twitter” from silly conspiracy theory to maybe plausible.

Isn't Musk personally liable for a lot of this burnt money? In this scenario, does Musk gain something or was he just outsmarted?

In that scenario Musk fills the "useful idiot" role.

I am not really convinced though, I think it's just plain old incompetence and hubris. But then, it's 2023 so who knows.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by housemusicfan »

rsynnott wrote: post #141
housemusicfan wrote: post #74

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Verified accounts are limited to 6k tweets/day. Assume the average human is awake for 16 hours a day. That's 6.25 tweets/minute if you did literally nothing but scroll through twitter all day long for 16 hours straight. Please explain how that makes the site "unusable" unless of course you are a non-human bot scraping site content.

Do you use Twitter? Even at the best of times, you learn to flip though fairly quickly skimming over the nonsense, and since the ascension of naughty ol’ mr car bluetick replies get promoted to the front of the queue, so you have to scroll past a sea of bullshit to get to the real replies. Twitter with 600 tweets a day is clearly unusable. That’s one large thread, and you’ll scroll past most of it anyway.

By your logic, everyone with a paid subscription constitutes "a sea of bullshit" and the "real replies" are at the back of the line? That's the most hipster-esque description of Twitter I've ever heard. Underground Twitter, it's where the cool kids hang out and vape behind the gymnasium.

This sounds more like unresolved personal grudges rather than an issue with the platform itself and the masses that use it. If you have a problem with the 600 tweet limit you can pay $8.

Everyone seems to forget that Twitter was bleeding money under the previous leadership. Unlimited free shit has its practical limits.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by lopkeny12ko »

ummonk wrote: post #145
lopkeny12ko wrote: post #93

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Flagged for linking to a tweet I can't view since you haven't written what it says

You're complaining that I didn't copy and paste the text of the tweet in my comment?

In the time it took for you to decide to reply, write this comment, and submit it, you couldn't have clicked on a hyperlink?

Elon's tweet speaks for itself--I'm not sure what kind of "gotcha" you're trying to play here.

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Post by kemotep »

housemusicfan wrote: post #154
greatwave1 wrote: post #115

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16 hours? If you're scrolling 100 tweets/min, you'd hit the unverified user limit within 6 minutes, and the verified user limit within an hour

I don't understand, are you actually reading 100 tweets/minute, or just endlessly scrolling through random data for thumb exercise? When you make the good faith assumption that people are actually reading through the content, the numbers start to seem a bit more rational.

The grandparent comments are saying that allegedly the limitation is tweets loaded not read. If you scroll past tweets to get to content you actually want to read, allegedly people have reached the daily limits after only a few minutes after opening twitter.

The good faith assumption here is that Twitter only counts tweets read but does that mean the client reads the tweet or the user? The server delivered them all the same, whether a human reads it or not. So does delivery of the tweet by loading it onto the device count or some nebulous amount of time spent lingering on the tweet?

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Post by bardak »

bcrosby95 wrote: post #227
PheonixPharts wrote: post #192

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I'm always a bit surprised how few people realized how many "nice things" from the last decade plus have been heavily subsidized by VC money (which itself was created from low interest rates). Every cool startup that people loved started by burning cash. This made Uber cheap, DoorDash cheap, Youtube helpful and creative, Facebook about connecting with classmates, Twitter a free public forum, Reddit a playground for f…

It's possible to make money on them. But not if you have tens of thousands of employees. They fail because they need to become billion dollar behemoths to support the VC funding they've gotten. But plenty (not all though) of them could be profitable if they were ran as a "lifestyle" business.

If you actually looked at the balance sheet of twitter before Elon took it over it was quite possible to make it profitable. It would have needed to cut cost and probably try and to boost its ad platform a bit more but well within the realm of possibilities.

With the debt that Elon has saddled them with I doubt they will ever be profitable again without declaring bankruptcy.

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