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Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by ROTMetro »

__jem wrote: post #39

Incredibly bizarre way to intentionally kill your app, even after all the other nonsense he's been doing. Even if I were willing to pay for something as cringe as verification, 6000 posts a day is laughable for an app like Twitter. I hit the rate limit on my "unverified" account in about 5 minutes. I've been waiting for $newApp to get enough users to be fun, and this only motivates me more to be the change I want to…

Now imagine being on Elon's Mars colony and having your breathing rate limited out of the blue one day. Today switched my vision of that from wonder and hope to seeing it as volunteering to become one of the belters in The Expanse. I'm kinda sad to have moved from the 'let me in' to 'hard pass' on that dream. It was one of that last big future dreams 1990s me had for the 20X0's.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by arthur2e5 »

sumeno wrote: post #240
PheonixPharts wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm always a bit surprised how few people realized how many "nice things" from the last decade plus have been heavily subsidized by VC money (which itself was created from low interest rates). Every cool startup that people loved started by burning cash. This made Uber cheap, DoorDash cheap, Youtube helpful and creative, Facebook about connecting with classmates, Twitter a free public forum, Reddit a playground for f…

In general yes, but Twitter was borderline profitable before Musk took over and saddled them with insurmountable debt payments and decisions alienating advertisers and users. Twitters current issues are entirely the creation of Elon Musk.

Blue sales ultimately can't hope to come close to what big brand ads used to give.

And ironically enough, blue currently works as a crappy version of advertising thanks to the reply ranking. The promises of prioritizing "high-quality content" never came true; all we see are mid takes and, if you speak Mandarin, AI-powered sex scambots.

Well, worse for us plebs. Not sure if it's worse for the buyers.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by Kye »

freewizard wrote: post #215
Kye wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An account on an ESPN Mastodon instance that comes with and logs in with that Disney+/Hulu/ESPN bundle would probably be popular. Doesn't even have to federate.

There will be cost and consequence of moderation, with very limited benefit given its content subscription model.

I was thinking read/boost-only for all but select users, like sports celebrities.

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Post by worrycue »

partiallypro wrote: post #191
faefox wrote: post #85

It really feels like we're witnessing the end of an era. Elon is doggedly piloting Twitter into the ground and Reddit seems strangely compelled to follow his lead. Reddit may recover - I'm not so sure about Twitter. What technologies will take their place? In a time where it's never been easier to stand up your own website/forum/what have you, could we possibly see a gradual return to a pre-corporate Internet?

If Meta were smart, they'd immediately shift away from their Metaverse nonsense and use this as a massive opportunity to do things they are pretty good at (hate them or love them.) I know they are working on a Twitter competitor, but they need to find a way to help get the followers they once had back, if they were to switch. They could even ultimately challenge Reddit. I know that would not be an ideal outcome, but…

> They could even ultimately challenge Reddit.

Frankly I feel Google would be more motivated to challenge Reddit. Since so many of Google’s search results go to Reddit, they might as well try to take over that part of the web rather than leaving it in the hands of mercurial leadership of Reddit.

The only problem is possible retaliation from Reddit and potential antitrust problems if other similar sites feel threatened.

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Post by Beeeaans »

If feels weird that this is happening on the same day that Reddit is also limiting their API. Both are citing AI as a major reason for this.

It’s suicidal for the platform, I think it’ll be reversed - in less than 24 hours probably.

In the unlikely event it isn’t, there’s more to this. Wild conspiracy: OpenAI is about to open source their code. Sam Altman is on the board at Reddit and gave them a heads up, maybe Twitter caught wind of this and is locking things down whilst they still can

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Post by tennisflyi »

rideontime wrote: post #50

I’ve got the requisite three twitter accounts (one for being nice, one for trolling, and one for porno) and each of them got rate limited after less than two minutes of scrolling. Wasn’t he just yesterday crowing about their “user-seconds”?

I love that you were honest. I two of those three.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by x1ph0z »

olalonde wrote: post #247
faefox wrote: post #85

It really feels like we're witnessing the end of an era. Elon is doggedly piloting Twitter into the ground and Reddit seems strangely compelled to follow his lead. Reddit may recover - I'm not so sure about Twitter. What technologies will take their place? In a time where it's never been easier to stand up your own website/forum/what have you, could we possibly see a gradual return to a pre-corporate Internet?

It doesn't feel like that to me. Elon reported that Twitter hit a new all time high of "user seconds" last week. Reddit usage doesn't seem to have gone down much. In my opinion, what you are really experiencing is wishful thinking.

| Elon reported that Twitter hit a new all time high of "user seconds" last week

I’m not inclined to take Elon’s words at face value, he has an incentive to pump any statistic that makes it seem Twitter is growing.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by dogecoinbase »

somenameforme wrote: post #184
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s notable that it’s Elon, not Yaccarino, making this announcement (and likely decision).

It sounds like they are facing a novel denial of service attack that was near to the point of being able to imperil their service. This is an obviously temporary remediation to keep the systems up, not a new policy for the site. And all of that falls right under the purview of the CTO.

They are, but it's self-inflicted: https://sfba.social/@sysop408/110639474671754723

> Lest anyone doubt that Twitter was idiotic enough to release code that would cause a race condition and result in its own users executing a DDOS attack on it, here's the network console readout from Firefox showing all the network requests blasting away.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by tennisflyi »

x86x87 wrote: post #148
victorbjorklund wrote: post #113

This is just insane. He really wanna take this app to zero users. Can't believe there exists people who think Elon is smart.

People are not unidimensional creatures. It's possible to be smart when it comes to certain things and a complete dumbass for ALL other things.

Unfortunately. And specialization pays.
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