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Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode
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#232Noticed this earlier but didn't realize how intentional it was until now. Since Musk claims the account-wall for guests will be lifted eventually, I wonder how this rate-limit will be enforced for those browsing without an account. If by IP address, guests using any somewhat popular VPN would have permanently maxxed out limits. If it is done with some sort of guest cookie / ID, then it will be instantly evadable by c…
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#233Elon seems to have adopted the same business model as Reddit. Lock down the data and sell it to the LLMs. Quite short sighted, but if you're desperate for cash then its probaly an inviting option. Im hoping the alternative to twitter start becoming more generally available soon.
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#234Incredibly bizarre way to intentionally kill your app, even after all the other nonsense he's been doing. Even if I were willing to pay for something as cringe as verification, 6000 posts a day is laughable for an app like Twitter. I hit the rate limit on my "unverified" account in about 5 minutes. I've been waiting for $newApp to get enough users to be fun, and this only motivates me more to be the change I want to…
They are literally throwing away revenue with every denied impression. An act of desperation obviously. My take: they broke something and need to shed load to keep the site running. The "extreme scraping" thing is the usual Musk BS.
Is it really "running" if users can't use the site at all?
Fwiw there's a post trending on mastodon that they DDOS'd themselves as a result of forcing logins to view tweets.
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#235It really feels like we're witnessing the end of an era. Elon is doggedly piloting Twitter into the ground and Reddit seems strangely compelled to follow his lead. Reddit may recover - I'm not so sure about Twitter. What technologies will take their place? In a time where it's never been easier to stand up your own website/forum/what have you, could we possibly see a gradual return to a pre-corporate Internet?
I'm always a bit surprised how few people realized how many "nice things" from the last decade plus have been heavily subsidized by VC money (which itself was created from low interest rates). Every cool startup that people loved started by burning cash. This made Uber cheap, DoorDash cheap, Youtube helpful and creative, Facebook about connecting with classmates, Twitter a free public forum, Reddit a playground for f…
What's frustrating about all this is the resources wasted on growing businesses that were fundamentally unsustainable. I think a tougher economic climate would have been better for innovation long-term.
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#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bluesky is having some degraded performance due to "record-high traffic" (according to them). As a casual user, it's noticeable how many people are posting now.
That’s still invite only though right?
Yeah. I think each user gets onr invite per week. Here's an invite code: bsky-social-ejzzv-3pehr
Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode
#237It really feels like we're witnessing the end of an era. Elon is doggedly piloting Twitter into the ground and Reddit seems strangely compelled to follow his lead. Reddit may recover - I'm not so sure about Twitter. What technologies will take their place? In a time where it's never been easier to stand up your own website/forum/what have you, could we possibly see a gradual return to a pre-corporate Internet?
The shift is that the content itself now has tangible value.
So far it's been the attention of the users that has been monetized, primarily via advertising.
But now the content generated by the users has value as input into AI training sets. And AI companies are scrambling to gather as much as they can as rapidly as they can.
The data itself, not the attention of the users, is what is now being harvested.
The companies hosting the data are right to intervene, there's no reason to allow incredibly well-funded AI organizations hoover it all up for free.
Where it's going wrong is how the social companies are intervening. Their goal is correct, their methods are not.
Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode
#238So 99% of accounts that are not verified are restricted to viewing max 600 tweets a day, which means if you do more than casually check Twitter once a day, you're fucked. No wonder everything is breaking. But that's OK. Twitter has a big engineering team that should be able to sort this out soon. Oh, wait...
Not an engineering issue. Compute, and in the end, energy, has a cost. You weren't aware of it because, as someone mentioned, it was subsidized before. Now you are aware. You're free to contribute by paying, if content is worth to you, or walk away. There are alternatives, but you can't escape the fact that moving all those bits is not free.
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#239For me twitter become unusable. I can't verify myself and i don't know really why. After 2 minutes of scrolling i reach my daily limit, so for me Twitter is dead.
Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode
#240It really feels like we're witnessing the end of an era. Elon is doggedly piloting Twitter into the ground and Reddit seems strangely compelled to follow his lead. Reddit may recover - I'm not so sure about Twitter. What technologies will take their place? In a time where it's never been easier to stand up your own website/forum/what have you, could we possibly see a gradual return to a pre-corporate Internet?
I'm always a bit surprised how few people realized how many "nice things" from the last decade plus have been heavily subsidized by VC money (which itself was created from low interest rates). Every cool startup that people loved started by burning cash. This made Uber cheap, DoorDash cheap, Youtube helpful and creative, Facebook about connecting with classmates, Twitter a free public forum, Reddit a playground for f…
In general yes, but Twitter was borderline profitable before Musk took over and saddled them with insurmountable debt payments and decisions alienating advertisers and users.
Twitters current issues are entirely the creation of Elon Musk.