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Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new category for them

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Re: Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new category for them

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I'm the author of the OP. Happy to talk more about the history of psychedelics.

I also wanted to flag that if anyone is interested in some of the historical sources I cite here (such as the Jesuit talking about ayahuasca in the 18th century) I go into more detail in this journal article, which is open access: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/historical-journal/a...

Re: Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new category for them

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post #2

I'm the author of the OP. Happy to talk more about the history of psychedelics. I also wanted to flag that if anyone is interested in some of the historical sources I cite here (such as the Jesuit talking about ayahuasca in the 18th century) I go into more detail in this journal article, which is open access: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/historical-journal/a...

I've got a question for you. Some people are very carefree with their use of psychoactive drugs. I'd say nearly everyone I've ever seen post online about trying mushrooms, LSD, etc. has done it for fun (or the experience) instead of spiritual, psychological, or medicinal reasons.

What risks are they exposing themselves to? I'd hate to have a friend hurt themselves.

Re: Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new category for them

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post #2

I'm the author of the OP. Happy to talk more about the history of psychedelics. I also wanted to flag that if anyone is interested in some of the historical sources I cite here (such as the Jesuit talking about ayahuasca in the 18th century) I go into more detail in this journal article, which is open access: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/historical-journal/a...

I'm curious why you're dissatisfied with the organically arrived at "folk taxonomic" category: psychedelics. Are you looking for a new classification in law?

Re: Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new category for them

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post #2

I'm the author of the OP. Happy to talk more about the history of psychedelics. I also wanted to flag that if anyone is interested in some of the historical sources I cite here (such as the Jesuit talking about ayahuasca in the 18th century) I go into more detail in this journal article, which is open access: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/historical-journal/a...

I've got a question for you. Some people are very carefree with their use of psychoactive drugs. I'd say nearly everyone I've ever seen post online about trying mushrooms, LSD, etc. has done it for fun (or the experience) instead of spiritual, psychological, or medicinal reasons. What risks are they exposing themselves to? I'd hate to have a friend hurt themselves.

I would imagine the same risks as someone doing it for spiritual, psychological, or medicinal reasons

Re: Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new category for them

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post #2

I'm the author of the OP. Happy to talk more about the history of psychedelics. I also wanted to flag that if anyone is interested in some of the historical sources I cite here (such as the Jesuit talking about ayahuasca in the 18th century) I go into more detail in this journal article, which is open access: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/historical-journal/a...

I'm curious why you're dissatisfied with the organically arrived at "folk taxonomic" category: psychedelics . Are you looking for a new classification in law?

The article specifically refers not just to the cultural, but also to the legal and medical, thinking about psychedelics.

Re: Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new category for them

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got a question for you. Some people are very carefree with their use of psychoactive drugs. I'd say nearly everyone I've ever seen post online about trying mushrooms, LSD, etc. has done it for fun (or the experience) instead of spiritual, psychological, or medicinal reasons. What risks are they exposing themselves to? I'd hate to have a friend hurt themselves.

I would imagine the same risks as someone doing it for spiritual, psychological, or medicinal reasons

Right, I'm confused what they are trying to accomplish gatekeeping others intent.

Re: Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new category for them

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got a question for you. Some people are very carefree with their use of psychoactive drugs. I'd say nearly everyone I've ever seen post online about trying mushrooms, LSD, etc. has done it for fun (or the experience) instead of spiritual, psychological, or medicinal reasons. What risks are they exposing themselves to? I'd hate to have a friend hurt themselves.

I would imagine the same risks as someone doing it for spiritual, psychological, or medicinal reasons

Since we’re speculating. I would imagine like just about all human experience, framing, priming and setting matter quite a lot.

Re: Shifting views about psychedelic drugs require a new category for them

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious why you're dissatisfied with the organically arrived at "folk taxonomic" category: psychedelics . Are you looking for a new classification in law?

The article specifically refers not just to the cultural, but also to the legal and medical, thinking about psychedelics.

From the article:

> this new landscape demands more than just new laws. It also requires a new category for psychedelics. Are they recreational drugs? Are they medicines? Are they religious sacraments?

I'm asking why we can't just answer this question with "They are psychedelics".

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