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ChatGPT is now a brilliant tool for winding up telemarketers and scammers

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Re: ChatGPT is now a brilliant tool for winding up telemarketers and scammers

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A couple years ago I committed to answering all phone calls and keeping spammers on the line as long as possible. Within a couple weeks it had real effect, and now I’m legitimately excited when the rare spammer calls me. Probably 2h net investment for the near-guarantee that calls to my phone are legit. Totally worth it. Steps: (1) If it’s a robot, punch numbers until you get to a human. (2) Act like you’re 120yrs ol…

I'll do you one better: When they call, sincerely start asking them questions about the identity of their business: location, name, ownership, etc. Usually they'll hang up. Call them back over and over with these questions. Then after a few calls, explain that you know how to use "VOIP APIs" and that you will be happy to spend $100 to DOS attack their call center. That would be illegal, but typically they're in no po…

Calling back never works for me because they always use spoofed numbers. This is why blocking is ineffective.

Re: ChatGPT is now a brilliant tool for winding up telemarketers and scammers

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A couple years ago I committed to answering all phone calls and keeping spammers on the line as long as possible. Within a couple weeks it had real effect, and now I’m legitimately excited when the rare spammer calls me. Probably 2h net investment for the near-guarantee that calls to my phone are legit. Totally worth it. Steps: (1) If it’s a robot, punch numbers until you get to a human. (2) Act like you’re 120yrs ol…

Best to avoid hitting any numbers. It's a good way to accidentally "agree" to charges billed to your phone number.

Good point. I’m mostly talking about following the phone tree (the vehicle extended warranty people needed you to hit 1 to get to a human). Definitely a good call not to just mash numbers.

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This is an ad for a private service.

And unfortunately it’s missing a lot of technical details. I mean they say this is “ChatGPT”, but if it is its not a very good implementation. It doesn’t appear to generate content on the fly, and instead works from a pre-done script? However, I may be wrong on this, but there’s genuinely not any information beyond feeding a “superprompt” to ChatGPT.

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What if the AI accidentally says the wrong thing and bankrupts you by buying a bridge?

What are they gonna successfully guess you credit card number?

AI: "Just put that bridge in the front yard, I will pay for it later!"

Re: ChatGPT is now a brilliant tool for winding up telemarketers and scammers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Soon it will just be AIs fighting AIs on the phone battle field. Probably a net good, because if it gets too bad it will force the government to fix the situation.

"We've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty..." - How long was that shit allowed for? Even now, oil companies are subsidized tens of billions of tax dollars per year - and they're not merely annoying; they're downright apocalyptic. As long as the AI companies have lobbyists, I imagine they'll be allowed to do just about whatever they like to us.

Not sure why you brought it up, but about those famous oil “subsidies”:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/drillinginfo/2016/02/22/debunki...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Best to avoid hitting any numbers. It's a good way to accidentally "agree" to charges billed to your phone number.

Good point. I’m mostly talking about following the phone tree (the vehicle extended warranty people needed you to hit 1 to get to a human). Definitely a good call not to just mash numbers.

mashing numbers was for a long time the best way to get a call transferred to a human untill they figured out it was just people breaking out of the ivr loops

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"We've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty..." - How long was that shit allowed for? Even now, oil companies are subsidized tens of billions of tax dollars per year - and they're not merely annoying; they're downright apocalyptic. As long as the AI companies have lobbyists, I imagine they'll be allowed to do just about whatever they like to us.

Not sure why you brought it up, but about those famous oil “subsidies”: https://www.forbes.com/sites/drillinginfo/2016/02/22/debunki...

Lol. That article doesn't tickle your propaganda detector at all?

... It's not even very sophisticated or well written. Bias oozes from every paragraph

And you ought not to expect any different - it's an opinion piece, written by Len Tosoro, "Director of Land Products at Drillinginfo".

Let's break it down, shall we?

* The definition of a subsidy: Len uses dictionary definitions to argue that subsidies aren't equivalent to tax breaks. But experts consider tax breaks or reductions a form of indirect subsidy. A subsidy can be direct (cash grants, interest-free loans, etc.) or indirect (tax breaks, insurance, low-interest loans, depreciation write-offs, rent rebates, etc.). When the government forgoes tax revenue that it otherwise would have collected, this lost revenue can be considered... a subsidy.

* Master Limited Partnerships (MLPs): Len argues that MLPs shouldn't be considered a subsidy for the oil and gas industry, but MLPs are a specific type of partnership that's publicly traded. There's a potential benefit to the oil and gas industry because these entities don't pay corporate income tax, unlike corporations. This structure can allow for lower capital costs.

* Intangible Drilling Costs: The author suggests that because these costs "may or may not be recovered", it doesn't make sense to treat them as assets. However, this misses the point that tax policy is often designed to encourage or discourage certain behaviors. By allowing these costs to be deducted immediately, the tax policy is incentivizing oil and gas exploration, which can be considered a form of subsidy.

* Royalty Payment Reductions: "Drillinginfo" claim that reduced royalty payments aren't a subsidy because income derived from operations is taxed at normal rates. However, this ignores the fact that lower royalty payments mean companies are effectively paying less for the resources they extract, which can also be seen as a form of subsidy.

* Depletion Allowance: The author argues that it's fair for companies to treat reserves as an asset that can be depreciated. However, this allowance lets companies write off more than the actual investment value, which isn't available to other industries, and thus it is often classified as a subsidy.

* Domestic Manufacturing Deduction and Foreign Tax Credit: While these tax breaks are not specific to the oil and gas industry, the fact that this industry can benefit significantly from these deductions can also be interpreted as a form of subsidy.

* Other industry comparisons: Len compares tax rates in the oil & gas sector with the healthcare and pharmaceutical industries. Lol, as if we don't subsidize them unfairly too. Regardless, tax rates depend on a bunch of factors. You can't simply compare them on an industry to industry basis. Also, the criticism towards subsidies isn't just about tax rates but about the environmental and societal impact of fossil fuel production and consumption. You know - the whole they're killing the whole planet thing.

* Taxes paid by oil & gas companies: It's worth noting that just because a sector pays large amounts of taxes, this doesn't mean they don't also receive subsidies. These are not mutually exclusive.

Len is a bit of a moron - is what I would say, if he weren't being paid to spit out harmful propaganda like this. And fuck Forbes too for printing it.

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