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Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

raincole wrote: post #732
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #682

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The actual problem seems to be that a large number entities now want a full copy of the entire site. But why not just... provide it? Charge however much for a box of hard drives containing every publicly-available tweet, mailed to the address of buyer's choosing. Then the startups get their stupid tweets and you don't have any load problems on your servers.

Are you really sure it's legal? In theory it's not different from providing the same information from API or website... but do people working in law think so?

I'm assuming their terms give them permission to redistribute everybody's tweets, since that's kind of the whole site. I don't know why they'd restrict themselves to doing it over the internet and not the mail, but do you have any reason to think that to be the case?

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Post by medler »

paulnpace wrote: post #883
justnotworthit wrote: post #106

for the desperate: https://syndication.twitter.com/srv/timeline-profile/screen-... add username at end from https://einaregilsson.com/redirector/ and https://gist.githubusercontent.com/robotblake/a0f020381c1a91...

I remember the olden days when something like this would be voted to the top. A useful solution to a posted problem is what I hope to find for topics such as this.

Doesn’t work for me

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by jchook »

Nas808 wrote: post #331
AlexandrB wrote: post #20

I've viewed twitter wayyyyy less (only when someone links something) since Tweetbot stopped working and I think it's been good for my mental health. A login wall will take that usage down to zero, so good news overall.

I find Twitter really annoying to use now, since they made it so all of the replies from blue checkmark accounts get boosted to the top of the feed. I have to scroll past all of them just to find "normal" comments. The BlueBlocker browser extension is helping, but it can only block 1 account approximately every 15 seconds, or it triggers a rate limit and I have to sign-in to Twitter again.

If you use Twitter on the desktop, you can simply hide the blue check tweets. It greatly improves the quality of the content.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hide-blue-checks/a...

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Post by kibwen »

sanderjd wrote: post #637
kakakiki wrote: post #599

From Elon's twitter ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674942336583757825?s=20 ) "This will be unlocked shortly. Per my earlier post, drastic & immediate action was necessary due to EXTREME levels of data scraping. Almost every company doing AI, from startups to some of the biggest corporations on Earth, was scraping vast amounts of data. It is rather galling to have to bring large numbers of servers online on an…

Yeah but he's full of crap; why would we believe anything he says about anything?

The above comment doesn't deserve to be downvoted. If Musk wants people to believe his statements, he should have refrained from being a serial liar. Now his reputation is in the trash, and he has only himself to blame.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by ahoka »

photonthug wrote: post #581
brushfoot wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm cautiously optimistic about Lemmy. Anyone can spin up an instance, so it's decentralized, but instances are connected, so there's community. It may still be rough around the edges, but to me it feels like the spirit of the old phpBB forums combined with almost 20 years of lessons learned from Reddit.

Not responding directly, just piggy-backing for lack of a better place to put this comment. The problem with Lemmy is that one gets sent to some place like https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances , is immediately confronted with a ton of weird links like "butts.international" and "badblocks.rocks", what even is this? And about 100000 other servers just named "lemmy", "notlemmy", and "lemmy1". So you clic…

“it's inaccessible anonymously, the same as twitter”

This is not true. Communities can be browsed without login on their home instances.

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Post by geekraver »

kakakiki wrote: post #599

From Elon's twitter ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674942336583757825?s=20 ) "This will be unlocked shortly. Per my earlier post, drastic & immediate action was necessary due to EXTREME levels of data scraping. Almost every company doing AI, from startups to some of the biggest corporations on Earth, was scraping vast amounts of data. It is rather galling to have to bring large numbers of servers online on an…

A decade ago I worked on building AI systems that made (legitimate, paid) use of the Twitter “firehose”. At that time more than 99% of the data was garbage. It’s worse now. The value then was largely in two areas: historical trends (something like Google trends), and breaking news; and only the latter was really that interesting. I doubt it’s a high value data source scraped in bulk; it could have value in a much more targeted approach. Seems unlikely to require the addition of “large numbers of servers … on an emergency basis”.

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Post by jmkni »

dang wrote: post #650
nunez wrote: post #110

This killed nitter. Fuck. I guess I'm done with Twitter. Reddit is in Eternal September. Twitter is login-walled. If HN is next, I'll probably be mostly done with the Internet. This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :(

HN isn't next. We hate change. (More precisely: we're acutely aware that users hate change, and since we do too, it's kind of an easy call.) Also, the value of HN to YC consists of the community and keeping the community happy is therefore a must. (Did I say happy? More precisely: as happy as possible under the circumstances)

Fair enough! Personally one thing I would like is some sort of inbox functionality to notify you if someone replies to your comment, but can definitely live without it!

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Post by naasking »

worrycue wrote: post #635
zerd wrote: post #618

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well they killed the API, what did they think would happen? It's easier to control access and rate limit with a proper API.

I despise Musk as much as anyone else and charging for API access has hurt a lot of valuable use cases like improving accessibility but … how about not massive scraping a site that doesn’t want you to?

> I despise Musk as much as anyone else

It's interesting how you assume that most people despise Musk.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by medler »

marcooliv wrote: post #381

Why is so terrible to just open an account? what a drama you're using a service that costs money to run. Everyone here likes to be highly paid but keep complaining for those things. maybe I'm missing something here. Use temp email, create an account and that's it.

I tried to do this several months ago and Twitter immediately shut down my account, demanding a phone number if I wanted to proceed.
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