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Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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Re: Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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Post by Zambyte »

zirgs wrote: post #55
Zambyte wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most GPUs have their drivers already built in - unlike on Windows. If you need proprietary Nvidia drivers, on most distros you just need to open the software center, search "nvidia" and click install. Honestly in this regard, Windows struggles to be a drop in replacement for Linux, not the other way around.

That wasn't enough - I had to shut down the X server to install the driver properly. I make software that runs on Linux exclusively for a living. I know very well how Linux works. It is still necessary to run stuff from the terminal from time to time. Even on user-friendly distros like Steam OS - some games will require some tinkering - but they run flawlessly on Windows. And another thing. I could not get Thunderbol…

> I had to shut down the X server to install the driver properly.

And you would have to reboot on Windows. Rebooting would also restart your display server on Linux, so that is at worst equally as painful as Windows.

> I know very well how Linux works. It is still necessary to run stuff from the terminal from time to time. Even on user-friendly distros like Steam OS - some games will require some tinkering - but they run flawlessly on Windows.

I think you probably choose the command line way to do things because you "know very well how Linux works". The whole GPU driver installation process can be done without knowing what a terminal emulator is. If you choose to take advantage of your existing knowledge, that isn't a flaw of the system.

> Even on user-friendly distros like Steam OS - some games will require some tinkering - but they run flawlessly on Windows.

I have not opened a terminal on my Steam Deck with the intention of making a game work. The most I have ever had to do was copy launch options from steam reviews or ProtonDB. Sure, that's not perfect. And that still leaves a few games unplayable. At this point about 80~90% of games can simply run though, which is way more games than anyone has time to play, and is a sizeable catalog when compared to other gaming systems. It may not be a "drop in replacement" in the sense that it can play 100% of games, but functionally it is a drop in replacement.

> And another thing. I could not get Thunderbolt working on Linux at all. It worked just fine on Windows on that same laptop.

I'm a noob when it comes to thunderbolt vs usb-c vs whatever else looks identical. I dock my work laptop (which runs Fedora) with some usb-c-like dock though and I didn't have to do anything to get it to work. I don't have anything to add other than that anecdote.

Re: Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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Post by TeMPOraL »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #43
PartiallyTyped wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am surprised VMWare didn’t do the same thing tbh.

Yet...

2023 starts to look like the Year of Enshittification, so it may come sooner than expected.

Re: Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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Post by taeric »

Ballas wrote: post #35
j-bos wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a challenge. Look at Linux vs Windows. Modern distros are a drop in replacement for Windows, minus the user hostility, yet people continue with Windows because change is hard, not to mention matching everyone else. So, even if OSS CAD became a drop in replacement for Autodesk, there's gotta be something extra to truly bite at Autodesk.

> Modern distros are a drop in replacement for Windows I really want to agree, and I am a big advocate for using Linux exactly because of the hostility from Microsoft, but for most users it definitely is not a drop in replacement. For an average user that is used to Microsoft Office, the difference is simply too big. It might not be the best example, but just look at how Linus from LTT struggled to get one of the "mo…

For most users, Chromebooks work as a drop in. Most linux distros would be fine.

This is especially true nowadays, as Steam has gone a LONG way to make gaming viable in linux.

Re: Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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Post by mchannon »

plagiarist wrote: post #34
jmartin2683 wrote: post #18

Fusion 360 was the greatest bait and switch I’ve seen in a long time. Went from free for personal use to $300/mo to make it useful at all… right after everyone built their library of parts on the free version

Sorry if I am missing something obvious, but the 10 editable files hasn't bothered me (very) much yet. Am I not using it as much? I'm I too inexperienced to notice other features that were previously there?

Perhaps the latter.

Certain types of screw convolving are essential to a number of my parts.

That feature is mostly now missing from the free version, though my existing files with it can change the parameters (though not add additional).

The 10 editable thing is just weird. It’s like having n light switches in your house and only 10 can be on at any given time (mechanically interlocked), but in exchange you get free electricity. While that’s a worthwhile deal for most, it’s hard to see how that incentivizes anything. It’s just mildly annoying.

Re: Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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Post by taeric »

CodesInChaos wrote: post #13
j-bos wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a challenge. Look at Linux vs Windows. Modern distros are a drop in replacement for Windows, minus the user hostility, yet people continue with Windows because change is hard, not to mention matching everyone else. So, even if OSS CAD became a drop in replacement for Autodesk, there's gotta be something extra to truly bite at Autodesk.

Which distributions? I switched some of my machines due to the increasing user hostility in Windows, but found it a big pain in the ass, even as a developer. And that's not even considering how many programs/games will only work on Windows.

A lot if this will boil down to what you found to be a pain. I hate to "give you more work," but do you have a list of things that you found particularly difficult?

Re: Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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Post by dogma1138 »

LocalH wrote: post #29
shizcakes wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This does not pass the sniff test. Can you cite a reputable source outlining supporting case law?

Regardless, if you have a legitimate license, and they pull this shit, you have the moral right to ensure that you can still use the license you hold. So, crack the shit out of it.

Moral rights mean fuck all in court, especially if you don’t have the money to throw at lawyers.

Also the DRM on all of these professional apps extends to the files they produce if you open a file in vector works autocad or any other professional software that was created or edited on an illicit copy a warning would pop up saying that the file was created on an illegal version and many of them wouldn’t allow you to edit the file further and for those which do saving the file again on a copy with a legitimate license does not get rid of the message that file is tainted for good.

This pretty much prevents any real world use of illicit copies professionally.

Re: Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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Post by bioemerl »

xvilka wrote: post #6

Time to invest the comparable amount of money in FOSS alternatives? FreeCAD, LibreCAD, BRL-CAD, and so on.

I've been learning it thanks to this amazing tutorial series by a guy named mangojelly.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWuyJLVUNtc0UszswD0oD...

freeCAD had a critical issue in topological naming (they are working on a fix as we speak and it's going to be out "soon"), and it's hideously clunky. Basically, when you resize a sketch and that causes more faces to be created it makes all your other stuff go crazy.

You can also use realthunders branch which fixes the naming issue as well.

Mangos videos teach you a bit how to think reasonably though freecads infuriating errors, too. The guy is worth a watch if you want to start using the best open source tool.

freeCAD sucks, until you learn it, and then it works alright. Learn to use data planes instead of sketch on face and the topo naming isn't even an issue anymore.

Re: Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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Post by mhb »

jmartin2683 wrote: post #18

Fusion 360 was the greatest bait and switch I’ve seen in a long time. Went from free for personal use to $300/mo to make it useful at all… right after everyone built their library of parts on the free version

I don't use it, but it looks like it is normally $545/year and currently (sale?) priced at $382/year. What is that missing from the useful $300/month version?

Re: Louis Rossmann: Autodesk turns lifetime licenses into subscriptions [video]

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Post by serf »

mhb wrote: post #68
jmartin2683 wrote: post #18

Fusion 360 was the greatest bait and switch I’ve seen in a long time. Went from free for personal use to $300/mo to make it useful at all… right after everyone built their library of parts on the free version

I don't use it, but it looks like it is normally $545/year and currently (sale?) priced at $382/year. What is that missing from the useful $300/month version?

they compartmentalize a lot of different modules into a marketplace.

Lots of the simulation/CAM suites at one time came with the cheaper subscription, now they're behind additional payments.

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