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Re: Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware?

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Post by scarface_74 »

OJFord wrote: post #298
scarface_74 wrote: post #296

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The poster specifically said > …that software does amazing things with old camera hardware . A “better camera” supported by worse software is not what the poster seems to want. Are you going to carry around your camera with you everywhere? And as far as audiophiles, it’s been repeatedly shown in blind studies that they can’t tell the difference as often as their snobbery would suggest. But I made good commissions in…

No cameraphile uses on-camera software to.. do anything. That you can do better on a computer than a phone then goes without saying. I'm not going to carry it everywhere no, nor did I say that. (Actually I didn't even say it applied to me.) I carry my Panasonic TZ100 when on holiday or otherwise desirous of better-than-phone photos. It fits in my pocket. Not the same one as my phone granted, but nonetheless in a pock…

I’ve scoured the internet and I can’t find any study that shows people can reliably tell the the difference between 256Kb AAC and lossless.

Re: Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware?

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Post by j-bos »

phs wrote: post #186
j-bos wrote: post #82

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Fairphone looks great, BUT they don't sell outside Europe.

Been using a FP4 in Washington State USA under T-Mobile for about 6 months now. Bought it from a British reseller. Very occasionally I need to bounce the cellular connection, I suspect because I land on an unsupported band/channel. Otherwise LineageOS runs on it like a charm.

Where do you recommend looking for a reseller?

Re: Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware?

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Post by develop7 »

scarface_74 wrote: post #301
OJFord wrote: post #298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No cameraphile uses on-camera software to.. do anything. That you can do better on a computer than a phone then goes without saying. I'm not going to carry it everywhere no, nor did I say that. (Actually I didn't even say it applied to me.) I carry my Panasonic TZ100 when on holiday or otherwise desirous of better-than-phone photos. It fits in my pocket. Not the same one as my phone granted, but nonetheless in a pock…

I’ve scoured the internet and I can’t find any study that shows people can reliably tell the the difference between 256Kb AAC and lossless.

You can produce anything you want out of lossless file. Other way around? Not so much

Re: Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware?

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Post by jqpabc123 »

bartvk wrote: post #284
jqpabc123 wrote: post #102

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It's all money. They don't want you keeping a phone for 5 years. Yes. Hardware vendors love Open Source. It essentially cedes all control of the market to them. They spend minimal time/money/effort on software development and updates because surprise, surprise --- it doesn't produce profits, it consumes them. Hardware is where they make all their money. The only realistic way to get long term software support on Andr…

> I just switch to the backup until the replacement arrives. Try that with your $1000 iPhone. Do you really keep them fully sync'ed? How do you sync photos?

I don't keep them fully synced. I do back up the "important stuff" on my primary phone to off device storage on a fairly regular basis. So my backup phone can be brought up to sync if need be.

A secret weapon in this regard is an Android open source file manager called Material Files which can create compressed files and speaks SMB. I usually create backups onto a SD memory card and then periodically copy these to local off device storage using wifi.

Re: Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware?

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Post by OJFord »

scarface_74 wrote: post #301
OJFord wrote: post #298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No cameraphile uses on-camera software to.. do anything. That you can do better on a computer than a phone then goes without saying. I'm not going to carry it everywhere no, nor did I say that. (Actually I didn't even say it applied to me.) I carry my Panasonic TZ100 when on holiday or otherwise desirous of better-than-phone photos. It fits in my pocket. Not the same one as my phone granted, but nonetheless in a pock…

I’ve scoured the internet and I can’t find any study that shows people can reliably tell the the difference between 256Kb AAC and lossless.

For the purpose of this discussion it doesn't matter - the germane point is that some people will want a 'better' system regardless of whether your studies agree it is significantly/detectably so.

Re: Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware?

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Post by dangus »

For the asks you describe, the iPhone is the answer, except for the word “Android.”

No Android phone is going to give you the same level of long-term support. iPhones have zero bloatware and you can uninstall first party applications. You’ll get OS releases the day they come out regardless of your phone model.

Re: Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware?

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Post by euniceee3 »

Zufriedenheit wrote: post #188

Gigaset. + Stock android afaik + 5 Year updates + Swappable battery and still IP68 - a bit older hardware and higher price It's the only smartphone assembled in Germany so not sure if its available where you live.

Or if the modem will support the bands where they are at.

Re: Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware?

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Post by pSYoniK »

Pixel 6a/7 (not 7a) for me. I had the Pixel 2 running Graphene OS for about 5 years and got the 6a a while back and put Graphene OS on it. You can get Gapps with Sandboxed Google Play Services, privacy, security and bloatfree experience. Because we have Google chips in these you also get 5 years of security updates (huge bonus!).

The 7a has poorer battery life than the 6a/7 so its a poorer choice for my personal use case but ymmv. Otherwise the 6a runs about 3 days for me (got 4 out of it initially but I use my phone very little) or 2 days when driving and needing more usage out of it.

Re: Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware?

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Post by jagaerglad »

_rdvw wrote: post #172
jagaerglad wrote: post #100

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Did you ever try /e/OS? All my banking apps surprisingly worked on FP4 with /e/OS

/e/OS is currently 7 months behind security updates for the browser/webview for the second time in a row and has a PDF viewer not updated since 2016 yet considers itself the "state of the art" in security. See my full list of issues with it here: https://divestos.org/misc/e.txt

Ok thanks for sharing, this was all new to me. Honestly it was just such a good user experience for me with their app store and just installing all apps seamlessly. It all just worked. Not sure if other custom ROMs have similar experiences since that's the only one I tried

The only reason I sold my FP4 and went back to samsung and their android experience was that everybod kept complaininh about mic quality during calls and I couldn't seem to fix it. Seemed like others also had similar issues

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