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Post by Nemo_bis »

gpxyz wrote: post #353
7e wrote: post #237

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Why are centralized businesses doomed to fail? It’s been the primary organizational mode for the last 10,000 years.

Genuinely curious: which centralized businesses existed in 8000 BCE?

I would bet that the first multinational organization to corner an intercontinental market was the apostolic church of Rome.

If https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_international_trad... is right, the necessary technology for international trade was not available before 4000 BCE (horse riding ~3700 BCE, long-distance sea travel ~2000 BCE).

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Post by raincole »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #682
zerd wrote: post #618

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Well they killed the API, what did they think would happen? It's easier to control access and rate limit with a proper API.

The actual problem seems to be that a large number entities now want a full copy of the entire site. But why not just... provide it? Charge however much for a box of hard drives containing every publicly-available tweet, mailed to the address of buyer's choosing. Then the startups get their stupid tweets and you don't have any load problems on your servers.

Are you really sure it's legal? In theory it's not different from providing the same information from API or website... but do people working in law think so?

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Post by udev4096 »

berkle4455 wrote: post #729
kakakiki wrote: post #599

From Elon's twitter ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674942336583757825?s=20 ) "This will be unlocked shortly. Per my earlier post, drastic & immediate action was necessary due to EXTREME levels of data scraping. Almost every company doing AI, from startups to some of the biggest corporations on Earth, was scraping vast amounts of data. It is rather galling to have to bring large numbers of servers online on an…

Amusing that I called precisely the cause well before Elon tweeted ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36542697 ) and was downvoted for it.

HN has an audience which is full of hypocrisy

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Post by Nemo_bis »

azangru wrote: post #196

Google still manages to show recent tweets. I wonder if twitter lets it through by checking the user agent.

For the longest time, Google had an agreement with Twitter to get new posts in real time with a firehose feed. It was active at least in 2009–2011 and 2015, not sure about the current status. https://variety.com/2015/digital/news/google-makes-peace-wit...

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Post by bowsamic »

Twitter is falling apart. Recently almost everyone I know got accused of being a spam account and told their accounts were locked. It’s not clear what this actually meant as they could still use it normally. Though I do know one who had to fight to get his back. I also am disallowed from liking tweets quite often and am told it looks “automated”. I also noticed a period on Thursday where they turned off the spam filter and I was inundated with likes from spam accounts

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Post by valeg »

coldpie wrote: post #175
hedora wrote: post #151

Uggh. I only use twitter to follow critical (life-and-death) emergency broadcasts from our local fire department. Is there a viable alternative for them to use now that twitter is going to block most of our county’s residents?

Not really. Blue Sky is the most promising replacement I've seen, but it's just another for profit company, so it will follow the same pattern eventually. I think an official government Mastodon or similar would work, but it really needs to be something hosted by a competent IT dept (meaning federal, in the US), with strict and well considered policies (who gets an account on it?) and with massive buy-in at all level…

Twitter had a brilliant brand (which is now tainted). Chirping birds, positive visual. BlueSky shortens to BS and mastodon is an extinct animal. Lemmy, on the other hand, is kinda cool.

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Post by starbugs »

tester457 wrote: post #329
optymizer wrote: post #309

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The Internet I loved was full of random forums and text websites. If anything, I'm rejoicing and hoping this will mean less centralized forums. Y'all realize you can just not use reddit and Twitter right? You can host your own forum on the Internet

The discovery hurdle is too big for me to rejoice.

Well, that was what search was for before that got broken… or should I say broke itself?

If it wasn’t so sad, this would actually be quite amusing to watch.

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Post by hiepph »

havnagiggle wrote: post #405
darknavi wrote: post #121

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It's extremely rough around the edges but getting into fediverse content (mastodon, kbin, lemmy, etc) has been extremely rewarding to me. It's like twitter and reddit but 15 years ago (and by that I mostly mean it's janky and full of bugs. Just like the web was 15 years ago!)

Finding communities is the toughest part.

It's still at the early days, so give it some times. But there are already some lively communities and, IMO, they are generally better in terms of quality since Fediverse is more niche and has higher barrier of entry.

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Post by manx »

kakakiki wrote: post #599

From Elon's twitter ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674942336583757825?s=20 ) "This will be unlocked shortly. Per my earlier post, drastic & immediate action was necessary due to EXTREME levels of data scraping. Almost every company doing AI, from startups to some of the biggest corporations on Earth, was scraping vast amounts of data. It is rather galling to have to bring large numbers of servers online on an…

They could just provide or even sell well curated datasets instead.
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