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Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Musk commented on this: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674865731136020505 "Temporary emergency measure. We were getting data pillaged so much that it was degrading service for normal users!"

Easy solution: Regularly upload dumps of public tweets to the internet archive, like how stackoverflow used to do. Twitter's value is in live engagement, not in stale tweets.

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This killed nitter. Fuck. I guess I'm done with Twitter. Reddit is in Eternal September. Twitter is login-walled. If HN is next, I'll probably be mostly done with the Internet. This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :(

It-always-did.jpg. I'm at least glad that people will start looking into the alternatives. The next lesson they need to learn is TANSTAAFL. Nothing good can come with an internet where publishers are paid with eyeballs. We need to rescue the idea that "voting with your wallet" is the best and fairest way to have quality content.

Somewhat agree, though the income disparity across nations (and even within) makes pricing somewhat more difficult- but I agree with the spirit of it having to be non-free.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

#653

What if we just had sites and RSS-like aggregators? You could subscribe directly to the sources you like. You could then publish the aggregation. In turn you could subscribe to an aggregator, and perhaps even reaggregate their content, too. In this way we can have a distributed method of "following" content that we like. Basically this vision is one where everyone run's Google Reader in their browser and, if you're r…

I'm thinking it'd be nice to make a DB mapping people's twitter ids to their preferred RSS feed in anticipation of this future. Just not sure how to deal with commenting/ feedback/interaction. Guess that's what the fediverse is for.

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post #644

From Elon's twitter ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674942336583757825?s=20 ) "This will be unlocked shortly. Per my earlier post, drastic & immediate action was necessary due to EXTREME levels of data scraping. Almost every company doing AI, from startups to some of the biggest corporations on Earth, was scraping vast amounts of data. It is rather galling to have to bring large numbers of servers online on an…

Isn't Musk a major investor in OpenAI? If he said "my data feeds chatgpt, not its competitors", that would make sense, right?

He's been somewhat critical of OpenAI. Specifically the part about it pivoting to a for-profit business.

> I’m still confused as to how a non-profit to which I donated ~$100M somehow became a $30B market cap for-profit. If this is legal, why doesn’t everyone do it?

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1636047019893481474

> I donated the first $100M to OpenAI when it was a non-profit, but have no ownership or control

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1639142924985278466

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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post #110

This killed nitter. Fuck. I guess I'm done with Twitter. Reddit is in Eternal September. Twitter is login-walled. If HN is next, I'll probably be mostly done with the Internet. This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :(

Disagree . Two of its most toxic waterholes finally gone. Join the wholesome and useful internet . Its out there. I promise .

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

#656

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Unfortunately, we are living in a world where using private company's social media is the most effective way to communicate public announcement as lots of people are using it daily. I am not sure if people are going to install government social media app just to receive information pertaining to public matters.

At that point “just” normalize RSS feeds. They serve an even better job for none of the centralization. My state already sends weather warnings via RSS, and I’m sure lots of other things I haven’t explored yet.

No ad revenue can be made off RSS. Google made sure of that.

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post #618

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Well they killed the API, what did they think would happen? It's easier to control access and rate limit with a proper API.

I despise Musk as much as anyone else and charging for API access has hurt a lot of valuable use cases like improving accessibility but … how about not massive scraping a site that doesn’t want you to?

And yet people do. Kind of predicting what various people react including scammers, bots, scrapper and what not is, like, job of a management in a company like this.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

#658

What if we just had sites and RSS-like aggregators? You could subscribe directly to the sources you like. You could then publish the aggregation. In turn you could subscribe to an aggregator, and perhaps even reaggregate their content, too. In this way we can have a distributed method of "following" content that we like. Basically this vision is one where everyone run's Google Reader in their browser and, if you're r…

Did you just reinvent the fediverse?

I don't really know. I'm on Mastodon but that doesn't really do anything I mentioned as far as I can tell.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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post #287

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This wasn’t the case for Twitter API pricing changes. My Twitter usage is down a lot since they killed off 3rd party clients.

> My Twitter usage is down a lot since they killed off 3rd party clients. Every user hostile move they've made basically halves my usage. I used to spend way too much time on Twitter, now it's 10 minutes a week and I don't feel like I miss much.

It’s a gigantically dumbass move that’s killed off all amateur creators and consumers. My feed is just filled with full-time content creators churning out 1/20 threads that are consumed by other full time content creators.

Just a boring echochamber.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

#660

From Elon's twitter ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674942336583757825?s=20 ) "This will be unlocked shortly. Per my earlier post, drastic & immediate action was necessary due to EXTREME levels of data scraping. Almost every company doing AI, from startups to some of the biggest corporations on Earth, was scraping vast amounts of data. It is rather galling to have to bring large numbers of servers online on an…

> immediate action was necessary due to EXTREME levels of data scraping

It sounds like Elon doesn't "get" the open web

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