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YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Post by barbariangrunge »

kitsunesoba wrote: post #226

This doesn't really affect me since I subscribe to premium, but something that a lot of ad-based services don't seem to grasp is why people block ads. It's because they've become increasingly obnoxious. Nobody blocked ads when they were a simple column of links in the gutter or maybe an animated GIF banner with 3 frames. No, adblockers became popular because ads kept getting more loud (both visually and audibly), in…

I use an ad locker because, without it, I run out of ram and start using swap memory aggressively while I work

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Post by lemming »

akerr wrote: post #711
miki123211 wrote: post #324

If you're on iOS, I highly recommend Yattee[1], a free Youtube app with no ads, background playback and sponsor block built-in. The way they get around App Store restrictions is by claiming that they aren't a Youtube app. They're technically a video-watching app which is supposed to be used with your own personal server. The server API they require, however, is supported by Invidious[2], an open-source, privacy-prese…

I use Vinegar[1] with Safari on all platforms which provides HTML5 video (and PiP etc) but with the other YouTube features. I have the Subscriptions page bookmarked so I get a reverse chronological list from my favourite creators. You could also use channel RSS to do this without an account. [1] https://apps.apple.com/app/id1591303229

I also use Vinegar, it's great. I recommend the developer's other apps, too. They tend to be simple apps which do one useful thing well, and also have a sense of humour.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Post by euix »

kitsunesoba wrote: post #226

This doesn't really affect me since I subscribe to premium, but something that a lot of ad-based services don't seem to grasp is why people block ads. It's because they've become increasingly obnoxious. Nobody blocked ads when they were a simple column of links in the gutter or maybe an animated GIF banner with 3 frames. No, adblockers became popular because ads kept getting more loud (both visually and audibly), in…

This might be okay with me if it weren't for the fact that browsing through an account means Youtube can track my viewing habits.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Post by nomilk »

ecliptik wrote: post #678
miki123211 wrote: post #324

If you're on iOS, I highly recommend Yattee[1], a free Youtube app with no ads, background playback and sponsor block built-in. The way they get around App Store restrictions is by claiming that they aren't a Youtube app. They're technically a video-watching app which is supposed to be used with your own personal server. The server API they require, however, is supported by Invidious[2], an open-source, privacy-prese…

Yattee + Tailscale + Piped greatly increased my consumption of Youtube videos. Missing most of the features mentioned (recommendations, watch history, google account, shorts) are all pros instead of cons to me. Just an app for intentionally watching content in a no-frills private environment, it's refreshing.

Any quick start guide to setting this up (e.g for newbies)?

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

kitsunesoba wrote: post #226

This doesn't really affect me since I subscribe to premium, but something that a lot of ad-based services don't seem to grasp is why people block ads. It's because they've become increasingly obnoxious. Nobody blocked ads when they were a simple column of links in the gutter or maybe an animated GIF banner with 3 frames. No, adblockers became popular because ads kept getting more loud (both visually and audibly), in…

What I don't understand is that the whole industry seems to be based on...lying?

If I trick the user into clicking on something that looks organic but it's not, I will be paid money.

Showing an ad full screen on youtube, forced, won't guarantee that is has any effect on the viewer, but the advertiser has to pay and on top of that, the user experience is ruined.

So based on lies, we ruin experience.

Isn't there a way to get incentives aligned?

The only ads that seem to work on me are Steam, because I open the platform on purpose to find new games. The other is costco giving free food. I'm hungry, I grab something from them and if it's tasty, I'll buy a bag to test if it's something we would like to buy on a recurring basis.

Everything else seems to just be annoyances

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Post by 4sellff »

The solution to Ads is to create an alternative. We call this an Offer and it differs in the following ways:

User Choice Ads: no (platform decides) Offers: yes (user decides = opt-in)

Privacy Ads: no privacy (your data belongs to them) Offers: total privacy (no info collected)

Rewards Ads: no reward (platform keeps all value) Offers: cash rewards (paid by seller)

Participants Ads: seller -> ad platform -> buyer Offers: seller buyer

Disclosure: founder of sellff.com. We created Offers to facilitate a more effective and honest way for buyers to connect with sellers.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Post by johnwheeler »

mcpackieh wrote: post #309

I block ads because they're psychological warfare that corporations wage against me. I don't care how unobtrusive the ads are. I don't care if the ads don't track me. I grew up changing the channel on TV when ads came on, and ripping adverts out of magazines before sitting down to read them. I vote for billboard bans whenever I can. I have zero tolerance for ads of any sort. Advertisers have no morals, they're comple…

Advertising is how you make people aware of goods and services. It’s not inherently evil. No one is waging warfare with you, and advertisers aren’t completely depraved. How do people get away with saying this shit? This is crazy.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Post by aledalgrande »

kitsunesoba wrote: post #226

This doesn't really affect me since I subscribe to premium, but something that a lot of ad-based services don't seem to grasp is why people block ads. It's because they've become increasingly obnoxious. Nobody blocked ads when they were a simple column of links in the gutter or maybe an animated GIF banner with 3 frames. No, adblockers became popular because ads kept getting more loud (both visually and audibly), in…

I open the youtube app, search for something, click on the first result to see if it's what I want and I have to watch two 15 seconds ads. Thank you but no.
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