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Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Musk commented on this: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674865731136020505 "Temporary emergency measure. We were getting data pillaged so much that it was degrading service for normal users!"

What he means is "we can't deal with a regular amount of traffic because we fired most people, also we don't know the value of SEO"

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Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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post #337

It always irked me that public institutions embraced Twitter as a primary means of communication in many cases. It never seemed right that a private company was being put in between public functions and the the public which depends on them. Not to mention, since I live outside the US, a private company in another country. I even wrote complaints to one local public body to ask them to set up a communication channel t…

On the other hand, public institutions have long been criticized for not communicating where the people are. Notices posted on their own website are unlikely to read by anywhere as broad an audience. Plenty uses newspapers, but even my grandparents get stuff from Twitter before the paper now, if just from younger people sharing it with them. I agree Twitter shouldn't be the only channel, but it is where the people ar…

I don't see why they can't do both, have an official website (with RSS), and automatically share the links on Twitter.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

#363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Internet I loved was full of random forums and text websites. If anything, I'm rejoicing and hoping this will mean less centralized forums. Y'all realize you can just not use reddit and Twitter right? You can host your own forum on the Internet

The discovery hurdle is too big for me to rejoice.

Especially since the best search engines are nearly useless for finding new old-style content… search is broken, the big platforms are broken, and random links from users of HN are now the only way I have to find new stuff. The cool thing is that most of what is posted to HN is relevant to my interests…

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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post #337

It always irked me that public institutions embraced Twitter as a primary means of communication in many cases. It never seemed right that a private company was being put in between public functions and the the public which depends on them. Not to mention, since I live outside the US, a private company in another country. I even wrote complaints to one local public body to ask them to set up a communication channel t…

On the other hand, public institutions have long been criticized for not communicating where the people are. Notices posted on their own website are unlikely to read by anywhere as broad an audience. Plenty uses newspapers, but even my grandparents get stuff from Twitter before the paper now, if just from younger people sharing it with them. I agree Twitter shouldn't be the only channel, but it is where the people ar…

The right thing to do is post all updates on their own channels, then post links to them on Twitter, maybe with a headline or blurb.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

#365

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 3. We absolutely will take legal action against those who stole our data… What does “our” refer to here? Does Twitter (i.e. musk) own the data in any sense? Or does he mean it as “we the people’s data”? Very off-putting to read that sentence. Obviously he’s trying to monetize the user generated data in this LLM rush as other avenues to monetizations have flopped.

I can't speak for him, just relaying the information. But I'm happy to speculate: Organizations violated the twitter TOS by scraping, and he's going to sue the organizations for it.

In light of hiQ Labs v. LinkedIn [1], I'm not sure that Elon has a cause of action that he's likely to succeed on with respect to sueing scrapers.

1: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HiQ_Labs_v._LinkedIn,

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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post #337

It always irked me that public institutions embraced Twitter as a primary means of communication in many cases. It never seemed right that a private company was being put in between public functions and the the public which depends on them. Not to mention, since I live outside the US, a private company in another country. I even wrote complaints to one local public body to ask them to set up a communication channel t…

On the other hand, public institutions have long been criticized for not communicating where the people are. Notices posted on their own website are unlikely to read by anywhere as broad an audience. Plenty uses newspapers, but even my grandparents get stuff from Twitter before the paper now, if just from younger people sharing it with them. I agree Twitter shouldn't be the only channel, but it is where the people ar…

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Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This killed nitter. I suspect that was the intent.

Yeah. Honestly, at this point you have to think the ketamine isn’t being microdosed[0], or the whole Twitter escapade is an intentional op to burn down an account independent forum that has frequently been a source of pain for those in power. I suspect the later. We’ve seen billionaires do it countless times. [0] https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families...

Man, you don’t need the special K to see that Elon is not great at non-engineering things.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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post #337

It always irked me that public institutions embraced Twitter as a primary means of communication in many cases. It never seemed right that a private company was being put in between public functions and the the public which depends on them. Not to mention, since I live outside the US, a private company in another country. I even wrote complaints to one local public body to ask them to set up a communication channel t…

On the other hand, public institutions have long been criticized for not communicating where the people are. Notices posted on their own website are unlikely to read by anywhere as broad an audience. Plenty uses newspapers, but even my grandparents get stuff from Twitter before the paper now, if just from younger people sharing it with them. I agree Twitter shouldn't be the only channel, but it is where the people ar…

The answer would seem to be POSSE - Publish on your Own Site, Syndicate Everywhere

https://indieweb.org/POSSE

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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post #85

Ugh, what an eventful time of social media this has been. First Twitter API, then Reddit API, so today Apollo and many more Reddit clients shut down, and now Nitter. :-( I'm happy Lemmy is kind of taking off. I think it's helped more than Mastodon because it's less realtime/feed focused and slower paced. It also doesn't require you to form a friend circle to benefit. Instead, the community is waiting for you already.…

What we had before was a low interest rate phenomenon.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

#370
post #76

Paul Graham famously started to use Mastodon (but has not written anything there since last year). But the HN Status emergency “is HN down” channel is still only on Twitter. It used to be publicly readable at https://twitter.com/HNStatus >. But now, if HN was to go down, only logged-in Twitter users would be able to see why.

>if HN was to go down, only logged-in Twitter users would be able to see why That's probably close to 99% of HN users

Never had a Twitter account. Never saw the appeal. Mostly annoyed when occasionally asked to read long-form writing split into multiple tweets. Now I never have to worry about that again!
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