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Outrage and "riots" are appropriate. The responsibility for this damage lies with the police.
The cops killed a teenager. I can't imagine the anger and grief their family, friends, and community are going through. The police are supposed to protect a community, and if they are murdering kids, what recourse is there? Outrage and "riots" are appropriate. The responsibility for this damage lies with the police.
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A lot of the sensitive suburbs (amusing French euphemism) as well as university domains built after 1968 are designed so that entrance and egress can be hindered during riots. A car might not help, depending on where you are.
Paris had seen changes before that to make it easier to deal with/suppress riots: https://rmschwartz.wordpress.com/paris/the-new-streets-of-pa...
Just so things are clear, France is suspending all bus services in cities at night . Buses generally run city to suburbs routes and have been subjected to attacks for the past few nights. Trains, which are the most used form of public transport in France, are still running. France currently has an issue with very young protesters (mostly teenagers) burning public infrastructures. Violence is still fairly limited. Rio…
> Riots might be a big word for what is happening. I'm sorry what?
The cops killed a teenager. I can't imagine the anger and grief their family, friends, and community are going through. The police are supposed to protect a community, and if they are murdering kids, what recourse is there? Outrage and "riots" are appropriate. The responsibility for this damage lies with the police.
None of the above excuses the police shooting, but you do not think the police was essentially trying to prevent somebody who sooner or later would kill a pedestrian or cause a serious road accident?
The cops killed a teenager. I can't imagine the anger and grief their family, friends, and community are going through. The police are supposed to protect a community, and if they are murdering kids, what recourse is there? Outrage and "riots" are appropriate. The responsibility for this damage lies with the police.
Do you live in one of the city that was under attack?
The cops killed a teenager. I can't imagine the anger and grief their family, friends, and community are going through. The police are supposed to protect a community, and if they are murdering kids, what recourse is there? Outrage and "riots" are appropriate. The responsibility for this damage lies with the police.
A 17-year-old would in most countries be judged as an adult. Was driving a Mercedes AMG without a driver's license and of course no insurance. Was "known to the police, particularly for resisting arrest," and in fact had been charged with resisting the previous weekend and five times since 2021. His judicial file included 15 recorded incidents, including use of false license plates, driving without insurance, and for…
I think that the cop tragically overreacted/panicked and is basically already condemned (including by the president).
This is a tragedy for everyone and the rest is pure hooliganism.
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Sure but the country is not a war zone. At the moment, actual physical violence is mostly limited to fights between young protesters and the police in some suburbs. It's the usual misguided answer to a sadly very real issue except it's harder to reason with kids.
“Kids” who play video-games, I presume. Macron’s paternalistic tone won’t help France one bit, it wasn’t “kids” who just beat two off-duty cops in Marseile (one of them was left unconscious on the street), it wasn’t a “kid” the guy screaming “les arabes vous enkulent!” while live-streaming the whole thing.
To me it seems way different than 2005. I was working (illegally, I was 15 and unpaid) with my father in a 'quartier ZEP' to help kids do their homework (we also played sport, board games and taught 'La vie en communauté' in general). For some reasons, I'm at the same place 18 years later, and it's not the same public. I'm living right in front of were the 'chaos' was last night. It feels way younger (I might just be way older, but truth to be told, I don't think it's that), more diverse (not just concerning the skin color and the religion, more socially diverse especially), more frantic, more violent at times but less focused. That might end in like two days.
It doesn't feel like the usual social crisis. I'm not sure it's social at all. It might be mostly generational. I think they are scared.
Also, we're back to the 70s it seems. Michel Rocard's inheritance is definitely gone. I'm afraid we're becoming the US in Europe, it surely seems we're racing the British toward that goalpost.
Relevant: TIL that during the 2005 French riots, up to 1408 cars were burned per night across the country. The government declared that the riots had ended when, after three weeks of chaos, only 98 cars were burned per night ("return to a normal situation everywhere in France"). https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/4i50p8/til_t...>
The cops killed a teenager. I can't imagine the anger and grief their family, friends, and community are going through. The police are supposed to protect a community, and if they are murdering kids, what recourse is there? Outrage and "riots" are appropriate. The responsibility for this damage lies with the police.