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Review: The AYANEO 2S is my new favourite handheld

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Re: Review: The AYANEO 2S is my new favourite handheld

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How are you feeling about the increase in popularity of handheld computers in the last few years? I personally find the idea of playing an MMO on a handheld very interesting, but it seems like the hardware just isn't there yet, as they're either too weak, too hot or have too short of a battery life.

Re: Review: The AYANEO 2S is my new favourite handheld

#3
These handhelds are great, but the battery life is just not there. They need to be able to sustain ~4 hours of continued gameplay. As they are, they can do maybe 1-1.5 hours. It's simply not enough.

Still great machines and I believe they only need a little more power to be able to play 1080p at 60fps; or personally I think we should focus on 40fps (40hz screens) at 1080p and then just focus on efficiency as much as possible.

Re: Review: The AYANEO 2S is my new favourite handheld

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These handhelds are great, but the battery life is just not there. They need to be able to sustain ~4 hours of continued gameplay. As they are, they can do maybe 1-1.5 hours. It's simply not enough. Still great machines and I believe they only need a little more power to be able to play 1080p at 60fps; or personally I think we should focus on 40fps (40hz screens) at 1080p and then just focus on efficiency as much as…

I would take a lower battery life for higher refresh rate. 60hz gaming makes me nauseous, but this is probably because I haven't played a game at <360hz in a long time.

Re: Review: The AYANEO 2S is my new favourite handheld

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These handhelds are great, but the battery life is just not there. They need to be able to sustain ~4 hours of continued gameplay. As they are, they can do maybe 1-1.5 hours. It's simply not enough. Still great machines and I believe they only need a little more power to be able to play 1080p at 60fps; or personally I think we should focus on 40fps (40hz screens) at 1080p and then just focus on efficiency as much as…

Meanwhile, you can play 900p xbox 360 era games on the Steam Deck for at least 4ish hours if you don't run them full bore, or 8+ hours if you do something like emulation or very specific games. The game output the past five years hasn't been good enough to justify needing better than that for me.

Millions of units sold seem to suggest that's closer to the real value people see in them as well, rather than playing yesterday's best AAA game at 4k

There's so much to play in the past 30 years of video game history that the Steam Deck (and this handheld) can do effortlessly for several hours, and as cheap as $350, all the elitists who can't seem to care about gaming unless it's twin 4090s with 128 cores at 5ghz and 128gb of DDR5. I don't think you guys actually care about PLAYING video games

Re: Review: The AYANEO 2S is my new favourite handheld

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These handhelds are great, but the battery life is just not there. They need to be able to sustain ~4 hours of continued gameplay. As they are, they can do maybe 1-1.5 hours. It's simply not enough. Still great machines and I believe they only need a little more power to be able to play 1080p at 60fps; or personally I think we should focus on 40fps (40hz screens) at 1080p and then just focus on efficiency as much as…

Meanwhile, you can play 900p xbox 360 era games on the Steam Deck for at least 4ish hours if you don't run them full bore, or 8+ hours if you do something like emulation or very specific games. The game output the past five years hasn't been good enough to justify needing better than that for me. Millions of units sold seem to suggest that's closer to the real value people see in them as well, rather than playing yes…

I'm currently moving and my desktop is all packed up, so it has given my Deck its chance to shine. As a Stardew Valley machine, I'm getting upwards of 6 hours of life out of the battery, can't sneeze at that at all.

Re: Review: The AYANEO 2S is my new favourite handheld

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These handhelds are great, but the battery life is just not there. They need to be able to sustain ~4 hours of continued gameplay. As they are, they can do maybe 1-1.5 hours. It's simply not enough. Still great machines and I believe they only need a little more power to be able to play 1080p at 60fps; or personally I think we should focus on 40fps (40hz screens) at 1080p and then just focus on efficiency as much as…

Meanwhile, you can play 900p xbox 360 era games on the Steam Deck for at least 4ish hours if you don't run them full bore, or 8+ hours if you do something like emulation or very specific games. The game output the past five years hasn't been good enough to justify needing better than that for me. Millions of units sold seem to suggest that's closer to the real value people see in them as well, rather than playing yes…

I have a Steam Deck.

The battery life is good on old games, that's true. But you can comfortably play a lot of modern games at 40hz/40fps mode; but just not for a very long while. It feels bad knowing you can run them decently but not really unless you're plugged.

Like, I wouldn't call people who want to play modern games on a handheld elitist? It seems to me that you're the one that has an elitist attitude as you're invalidating other people's opinion based on what... ? People want to play the games they want to play.

Not only that, but as with any industry, the video-game industry has evolved over the years; games are not just prettier but there's also plenty of changes in how games are played. So it's not unreasonable to think for a lot of people games that were released 20 years ago don't feel like the games they enjoy.

Really, there's a ton of really amazing games out there. And it's a shame to not be able to play them as comfortably as one would like to.

Also, by your own reasoning, there's hundreds of games on SNES/NES/N64/PSX that can be played perfectly on sub 100 dollar consoles. Damn to all those elitist that only care about consoles capable of emulating XBOX 360 era games, it's never enough for them!

Re: Review: The AYANEO 2S is my new favourite handheld

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These handhelds are great, but the battery life is just not there. They need to be able to sustain ~4 hours of continued gameplay. As they are, they can do maybe 1-1.5 hours. It's simply not enough. Still great machines and I believe they only need a little more power to be able to play 1080p at 60fps; or personally I think we should focus on 40fps (40hz screens) at 1080p and then just focus on efficiency as much as…

I would take a lower battery life for higher refresh rate. 60hz gaming makes me nauseous, but this is probably because I haven't played a game at <360hz in a long time.

Really? Huh. I mean the ROG Ally can do 120hz.

For me personally, 40fps/40Hz seems like the sweetspot for these consoles. Ideally on a decent (1080p) resolution which at that screen size looks phenomenal. But I think ultimately we both want the same thing; more power, more efficiency.

Re: Review: The AYANEO 2S is my new favourite handheld

#9
Companies iterating so quickly on their products might be their biggest weakness. Since its release, the Steam Deck hasn't been improved by releasing the Steam Upper Decker, but by a constant stream of software improvements, both to the OS, and also Proton. I know my device won't be handicapped by a replacement in six months.
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