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Zed Shaw responds to DHH's Ruby Myths

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Re: Zed Shaw responds to DHH's Ruby Myths

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Post by jrockway »

Harkins wrote: post #50
jrockway wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I've been nervous about using it in production, mainly because I don't yet trust that it isn't going to interact poorly with my rewrite rules and authN/Z setup. Apache configurations can feel a bit like voodoo even when modules aren't stomping all over each other, and the interaction of Passenger with mod_rewrite, in particular, seems like it could cause breakage. I hear it's possible to install it on a s…

You've got a good suggestion, but why the snark? Did he need to be put down?

To be fair, his comment was at -2 when I replied. I assumed he was trolling.

Re: Zed Shaw responds to DHH's Ruby Myths

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Post by jrockway »

alecco wrote: post #48
jamesbritt wrote: post #23

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Clearly, jrockway needs help.

And somehow he gets more than 9 votes up (because there must have been negative votes.)

I'm pretty sure that is a joke based on the story I relate in the comment.

But yes, I definitely need help!

Re: Zed Shaw responds to DHH's Ruby Myths

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Post by gommm »

rcoder wrote: post #7

"Mom, DHH called me a stupid-head!" "Did not!" "Did so!" ... Etc., etc. Honestly, neither of these guys need us feeding their egos. They've contributed some decent infrastructure for web hacking, but if they want to have a he-said/she-said argument, that's their business. I personally don't want to waste any more time on their little ego-fest. Let's turn this into a thread about Passenger, instead, since both of them…

The only reason I didn't switch to mod_passenger is that I still have nightmares from apache configuration and like the nginx config files....

Re: Zed Shaw responds to DHH's Ruby Myths

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

Aaah we all love a good soap opera :-) But seriously, apart from that Zed/DHH warfare, I do wonder what Zed's experience means for the open source business model. To be honest, I don't believe that Zed is the asshole his tone sometimes suggests and that makes me wonder why he didn't get good jobs as the creator of Mongrel. That's much more interesting than DHH's silly lie.

And Zed is by no means alone. I seem to remember that Guido Van Rossum wasn't paid for his work on Python for many many years, until 2005 actually when he was hired by google. (Of course I don't know whether he actually tried to get paid for python work) During all those years, python was one of the most popular programming languages.

In the commercial space, someone who makes something as popular as Mongrel, let alone Python, does get paid more than enough for one person. Something's very wrong with this business model.

Re: Zed Shaw responds to DHH's Ruby Myths

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Post by swombat »

jrockway wrote: post #51
Harkins wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've got a good suggestion, but why the snark? Did he need to be put down?

To be fair, his comment was at -2 when I replied. I assumed he was trolling.

To be slightly unfair, your strength of character is defined not by your behaviour to those who can defend themselves, but to those who look like they deserve to be put down...

I'm not attacking you, mind you, just pointing out that it's a better general principle to treat others based on what you believe is civil and acceptable rather than based on whether other people think this particular person deserves it.

Re: Zed Shaw responds to DHH's Ruby Myths

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Post by alecco »

jrockway wrote: post #52
alecco wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And somehow he gets more than 9 votes up (because there must have been negative votes.)

I'm pretty sure that is a joke based on the story I relate in the comment. But yes, I definitely need help!

My head hurts from laughing so much...
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