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DMT, Derealization, and Depersonalization

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Re: DMT, Derealization, and Depersonalization

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Post by jokowueu »

I have had derelization from acute stress but it was never disturbing to me and it went away when my environment changed

Through the years I have dabbled with psychadelics with no downsides or upsides untill I decided to smoke cannabis for the first time , I had a very strong reaction that put me in depersonalization hell, it lasted 4 years , thankfully this was a few months before the lockdown .

I was surprised to learn how many people have had depersonalization from cannabis after just one hit

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Post by stingraycharles »

jokowueu wrote: post #2

I have had derelization from acute stress but it was never disturbing to me and it went away when my environment changed Through the years I have dabbled with psychadelics with no downsides or upsides untill I decided to smoke cannabis for the first time , I had a very strong reaction that put me in depersonalization hell, it lasted 4 years , thankfully this was a few months before the lockdown . I was surprised to l…

What’s it like to experience derealization? For some reason I’m reading about it twice in a week suddenly, and I was never aware such an experience existed; I read a story about someone who slowly started suffering from derealization more and more, and was having trouble dealing with it after several years. It sounds frightening.

Re: DMT, Derealization, and Depersonalization

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Post by isoprophlex »

Poor guy. That seems like it was totally preventable, and not the easiest way to enlightenment or confronting anxiety.

I'm definitely not victim blaming here, yet I feel that this has to be reiterated often..: People, please never take unknown doses of drugs and/or have other people pressure you into taking drugs and/or do drugs in a shitty setting. You will probably have a bad time.

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Post by nerdponx »

jokowueu wrote: post #2

I have had derelization from acute stress but it was never disturbing to me and it went away when my environment changed Through the years I have dabbled with psychadelics with no downsides or upsides untill I decided to smoke cannabis for the first time , I had a very strong reaction that put me in depersonalization hell, it lasted 4 years , thankfully this was a few months before the lockdown . I was surprised to l…

I've had derealization on a regular basis for years. It seems highly correlated with autoimmune flare-ups related to my celiac disease. It also seems to come along with fatigue, vertigo, and sensitivity to light and noise. It was moderately debilitating and it sort of ruined my life for a while, until I learned to manage it with diet, sleep, and exercise.

Re: DMT, Derealization, and Depersonalization

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Post by obsequiosity »

When it talked about perinatal experience something clicked for me. I've dabbled in mushrooms and Vipassana and after I left a meditation center I had that same spiritual emergency. But when I did sensory deprivation floats and practiced Vipassana in there, the death anxiety and derealization went away. I had to come back to attachments too but emerging from a pod that's warm and moist did help. Perinatal integration, perhaps.

Re: DMT, Derealization, and Depersonalization

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Post by pyentropy »

I've had horrible DR and DP as a child. It runs in families with anxiety disorders and personality disorders.

No matter how many times it happened, it was always equally scary - feeling like a passive observer of a movie starring some piece of flesh and bones as the main character, feeling completely separate from that body and unable to control its decisions. The episodes usually lasted I don't know about its occurrence in psychedelics, but in my case it always occurred after periods of extreme emotions (seeing a classmate die and being aware of my own mortality, being rejected by some 'friends' in school, and a few others). The way I see it (and some neuroscientists claim), the brain shuts the perception of "self" in order to stop intense emotional pain.

Re: DMT, Derealization, and Depersonalization

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Post by throwanem »

Nobody wants to discuss potential harms in a grassroots advocacy movement for legalization or normalization - we saw the same thing in decades past with cannabis.

The reasons are understandable, but the results aren't great. I would rather see more openness up front even at the cost of complicating the message, than see folks end up with this kind of trouble because advocates chose not to be as honest about the risks as about the benefits.

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