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YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#602

This doesn't really affect me since I subscribe to premium, but something that a lot of ad-based services don't seem to grasp is why people block ads. It's because they've become increasingly obnoxious. Nobody blocked ads when they were a simple column of links in the gutter or maybe an animated GIF banner with 3 frames. No, adblockers became popular because ads kept getting more loud (both visually and audibly), in…

> Web advertisers seem like a classic case of taking miles when given an inch.

It's a classic case of tragedy of the commons.

Your gutter ads don't convert as well and they are blocked just as readily as the loud ones.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#603

If you're on iOS, I highly recommend Yattee[1], a free Youtube app with no ads, background playback and sponsor block built-in. The way they get around App Store restrictions is by claiming that they aren't a Youtube app. They're technically a video-watching app which is supposed to be used with your own personal server. The server API they require, however, is supported by Invidious[2], an open-source, privacy-prese…

Or just pay for YouTube Premium?

I pay for Premium. Sadly it doesn't stop creators from inserting their own ~ads~ sponsorships into the videos directly so Sponsorblock is still a non-negotiable component of Youtube for me.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#604

I block ads because they're psychological warfare that corporations wage against me. I don't care how unobtrusive the ads are. I don't care if the ads don't track me. I grew up changing the channel on TV when ads came on, and ripping adverts out of magazines before sitting down to read them. I vote for billboard bans whenever I can. I have zero tolerance for ads of any sort. Advertisers have no morals, they're comple…

The ENTIRE POINT of an advertisement is to extract wealth from you by getting you to spend money you wouldn't otherwise spend. If I want to learn about products and decide what to buy or try and solve a problem I have, advertising provides negative value to that, because advertising is inherently inaccurate and dishonest.

Advertising is just a disgusting tax on capitalism by a few cartels.

Get a billboard ban passed in your state. It's absolutely wonderful.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#605

If you're on iOS, I highly recommend Yattee[1], a free Youtube app with no ads, background playback and sponsor block built-in. The way they get around App Store restrictions is by claiming that they aren't a Youtube app. They're technically a video-watching app which is supposed to be used with your own personal server. The server API they require, however, is supported by Invidious[2], an open-source, privacy-prese…

Here's a much simpler approach: use the Brave browser on iOS and use the YouTube website. It blocks all YouTube ads, allows background playback and picture-in-picture, etc. You also get all of your regular YouTube features, like recommendations, etc. I haven't used the official YouTube app since.

Using Brave to defeat YouTube ads.....ironic.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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post #313

This is just so funny to me. Google has to have the absolute worst PR for any company I've ever seen to make this happen. Somehow, they've duped the general public (at least on HN) into believing they insert the ads into videos. All they need to do is run a marketing campaign about how as a content creator you get to decide when ads play, whether they're unskippable, and how many ads to place in your video. Blast tha…

> "Leave angry comments on the videos you watch and tell the creators your pissed at them for how many ads they place."

This will get your account shadowbanned, i.e. you'll be able to see your comments and votes but nobody else will be.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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post #222

I don't really understand either side of the equation here. So, on the one hand you have people who use ad blockers. The first retort that comes to mind here is: Well, we'll take our business elsewhere. Which is odd because without ads they aren't paying and them leaving is the goal. Of course on the other hand ... when I read the title my thoughts weren't that I would be okay because I don't ad block youtube. My tho…

It costs a lot of money to run YouTube. If someone wants to make a competitor, they’re free to do so, but most will charge because of how expensive it is or you could use a PeerTube-like system. I pay for YouTube Premium and get value out of YouTube. I’m also an adult with a decent paying job so it’s not a big deal for me.

Maybe the mistake of these conglomerates is getting people accustomed to a certain level of service for free.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#608

The primary reason I use an adblocker is to prevent malware / viruses. I would be more accepting of ads in general if: 1 - they were all served from the primary websites server - eg yahoo blaming third party ad servers for injecting virus scripts and taking no responsibility is not okay with me. 2 - I had easy choices to block ads for things like gambling and alcohol at the ip level, not just browser level. 3 - no fl…

> they were all served from the primary websites server

> I had easy choices to block ads for things like gambling and alcohol at the ip level

???

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#609

This doesn't really affect me since I subscribe to premium, but something that a lot of ad-based services don't seem to grasp is why people block ads. It's because they've become increasingly obnoxious. Nobody blocked ads when they were a simple column of links in the gutter or maybe an animated GIF banner with 3 frames. No, adblockers became popular because ads kept getting more loud (both visually and audibly), in…

I've had adblockers installed for decades. I'm always amazed at how bad the internet is without them when occasionally I view a website on my phone. When there's one completely unrelated video ad playing, and then a second also unrelated video ad pops up on top of the first, I wonder if the first advertiser knows or cares that their ad is being covered by another ad. And then I have two or more audio streams playing…

You can use uBlock Origin (and a few other addons) on Firefox for Android.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#610

I've had an adblocker in my browser for ages, but I wasn't a big youtube user because it just didn't have sufficient information density for me, even before google put ads in the platform. (Google only stuck ads in YT after they ran all of their competitors out of business!) Finding Vanced (and now ReVanced) with adblocking, SponsorBlock, and the ability to set the speed higher than 2x made it so that I actually use…

YouTube Premium is a far superior experience to Nebula.
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