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Microwaved plastic containers release microplastics into food

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Re: Microwaved plastic containers release microplastics into food

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The really annoying thing is that when you bring up the generational decline of testosterone in men no one really cares. Then RFK Jr brings it up - quite validly - and now you have the entire Democrat-pharma industrial complex lumping it under "far-right conspiracy theory, probably funded by Russia and MAGA white supremacists who hate women and Muslims". The irony is that it's a problem that is clearly already having…

> It's quite likely it's behind some of the current issues both at the fringes (rapid onset gender dysphoria) and broadly in politics (see the correlation between male testosterone levels and voting patterns). Can you expand on this? Are you attributing political movement to the left in young men to lower testosterone levels?

It would surprise me if it wasn't a factor. Probably not quite as clear-cut as "less T => more left" but I do view the left as more "nurturing" than the right. Not gonna die on this hill though, humans are complicated :)

Re: Microwaved plastic containers release microplastics into food

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Reproductive issues are real. Sperm counts have fallen massively, and the lead researcher thinks EDCs are to blame. She only drinks filtered water. https://www.ft.com/content/f14ab282-1dd3-46bf-be02-a59aff3a9...

There is no evidence in the linked text that possible "reproductive issues" from sperm count reduction would be something overall bad. One possibility is that the total number of humans born will decrease somewhat and that global population will be somewhat lower compared to an alternative scenario with less microplastics. Every human has needs that require energy and resources so a scenario with lower global populat…

> might be better in terms of making sure all born humans get what they need.

Might be. Or might not be. Who knows? Let's leave it up to random chance and see what happens! No point in trying to understand this phenomenon right?

Re: Microwaved plastic containers release microplastics into food

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Off topic but do any of the $40 for the 48h access go to any of the authors of the paper?

Highly doubt it. Publishing companies are highly predatory, the industry is a scam/sham.

Fascinating, thanks.

Re: Microwaved plastic containers release microplastics into food

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In addition to not storing warm things in plastic, I also avoid storing liquids (e.g. food in sauce, stews etc) because I think its easier for plastic to contaminate the food. I am no expert so I may be over-reacting or completely wrong that dry food does any better in plastic.

I don’t think you’re overreacting if you think any invention newer than 100 years has a high probability of being detrimental to our nature in some way.

This is why I use leaded pewter kitchenware exclusively. /s

Re: Microwaved plastic containers release microplastics into food

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As a daily Aeropress user, I wonder if I should maybe switch to something else. Thoughts?

Aeropress will be releasing a premium version made out of glass later this year. https://coffeechronicler.com/aeropress-xl-premium/

It will be made out of Tritan -- a type of plastic, not glass.

Re: Microwaved plastic containers release microplastics into food

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It was already known that some kinds of plastic release microplastic particles when heated. I assume this is why we have some plasticware that is labeled as being suitable for microwave oven usage, but at quick glance at the abstract doesn't seem they considered this difference. It would be interesting to know the amount of micropastic released by "microwave suitable" plastic vs common plastic.

"microwave suitable" just means "this won't melt if you put it once into the microwave". Almost as bad as "flushable wipes" which technically can be flushed but should never be as they clog the plumbing and sewer systems. By the same definition airpods and wedding rings are flushable too.

Yeah, toilet paper is supposed to rapidly fall apart when it's wet. If the wipes don't do the same thing they're not actually flushable.

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I've long ago stopped cooking or putting hot food in plastic containers.. not because of this but because of the possibility other harmful substances leeching from the plastic in to my food. Sure, there are some plastics labeled "for safe" and "BPA-free", but that doesn't guarantee some other plastic that's used doesn't contain harmful substances or cause as yet unknown side effects that just haven't been found by re…

> Sure, there are some plastics labeled "for safe" and "BPA-free" Indeed, it's common to substitute bisphenol-B for bisphenol-A in these situations.

More than 50 different chemicals are now pumped into consumer products in place of BPA. These BPA-free alternatives can be as bad as — or worse than — the original.

https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/many-bpa-free-plasti...

Re: Microwaved plastic containers release microplastics into food

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Have they really? Because many people use plastic Tupperware in the microwave. I've never purchased a piece of tuperware that said it would release microplastics into the food if I put it in the microwave. I don't know what it is lately but I feel like a lot of things labeled as "myths" and "woo woo" seem to be coming out as actually harmful, forever chemicals, fluoride in drinking water are others that come to mind.…

>fluoride in drinking water Is there a legitimate issue with fluoride in drinking water? A quick google search yields nothing.

Meta-analysis study from China says fluoride in drinking water lower IQ by 7 points on average in children, with more fluoride causing higher effects [1]. Probably politically infeasible to do such a study in the US because of left-right polarity but I'm sure once it gets widespread acknowledgement in a couple of decades, there'll be people saying how it was obvious all along.

Other studies too from a quick google search. Pregnant women drinking fluoridated water lowers children's IQ by 3-4 points [2]

1. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/fluoride-children...

2. https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2019/08/20/fluoride-an...

From google

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18695947/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31424532/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5285601/

This is a good article as an overview of the problem:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41390-020-0973-8

Re: Microwaved plastic containers release microplastics into food

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I've long ago stopped cooking or putting hot food in plastic containers.. not because of this but because of the possibility other harmful substances leeching from the plastic in to my food. Sure, there are some plastics labeled "for safe" and "BPA-free", but that doesn't guarantee some other plastic that's used doesn't contain harmful substances or cause as yet unknown side effects that just haven't been found by re…

> Sure, there are some plastics labeled "for safe" and "BPA-free"

BPA has been identified as a hormone disruptor. My question is, how many other plastics have been investigated to rule out hormone disruptors? Safe means more than zero evidence of harm.

Re: Microwaved plastic containers release microplastics into food

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post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's quite likely it's behind some of the current issues both at the fringes (rapid onset gender dysphoria) and broadly in politics (see the correlation between male testosterone levels and voting patterns). Can you expand on this? Are you attributing political movement to the left in young men to lower testosterone levels?

It would surprise me if it wasn't a factor. Probably not quite as clear-cut as "less T => more left" but I do view the left as more "nurturing" than the right. Not gonna die on this hill though, humans are complicated :)

If we are speculating, perhaps the extra testosterone is what makes the men on the right attracted to the strong-man daddy figures?
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